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4/8 Sox vs. Orioles 1:10PM

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4 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Buddy keep dreamin

Is that a Buddy Bell reference since we are going to KC?

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12 minutes ago, wegner said:

Is that a Buddy Bell reference since we are going to KC?

Speaking of K.C. how many have they lost in a row there? I know they were winless last season but think they lost a few more the season before.

They started 4-16 last season and 4-22 the year before, so honestly 4-8 barely registers to me.

The pitching was fine enough, look moderately less hopeless with RISP and it shouldn't take them another two weeks to find win #5 like it did last year.

Teel and Pereira should be back by then if nothing else, and they'll be past the service time cutoff for Antonacci and company. too

43 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I'm beginning to believe this manager should go also. He's been using Taylor as a one inning starting pitcher which is a waste of his talent. He would improve our bullpen. Today the team had runners on with one out in the 7th inning and a lefty pitching for the Orioles. He had Sosa on the bench and instead he pinched hit somebody else who grounded into a DP. i would think most managers would have had Sosa hitting in that situation. I've thought from the beginning of this season that this management doesn't care if they win. The main objective is to keep the payroll as low as possible. I still feel that way.

The only way Venable gets fired is if he's found guilty of a crime. He's not going anywhere.

44 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

But Antonacci and Braden will save us in 2027.

Realistically though, have to wait for Bonemer/Roch 2028.

They may not be even playing in 2027.

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5 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

They started 4-16 last season and 4-22 the year before, so honestly 4-8 barely registers to me.

The pitching was fine enough, look moderately less hopeless with RISP and it shouldn't take them another two weeks to find win #5 like it did last year.

Teel and Pereira should be back by then if nothing else, and they'll be past the service time cutoff for Antonacci and company. too

That’s because your expectations have been completely shot down by terrible owner, GM, and team.

Edited by WhiteSox2023

37 minutes ago, almagest said:

Yeah, even if he's a complete idiot jerkface Sosa should be DHing. They need offense so bad right now. 11 runs given up in 3 games is a winnable series.

Hopefully the bats warm up once they get Hays, Teel and Pereira back, and start bringing up some guys from the minors.

Please refer to Hays' recent injury history.

17 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

They may not be even playing in 2007.

They went 72-90 in 2007....that sounds great for this bunch.

14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

That’s because your expectations have been completely shot down by terrible owner, GM, and team.

The expectations I have for the season were always going to rely more on their June or July performance than their record two weeks in

I didn't watch the game but the most embarrassing thing has to be giving up a triple to Benintendi

24 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Please refer to Hays' recent injury history.

Yep. Good acquisition and I wanted him last year as well but he’s not exactly known for his ability to stay healthy, just like with the Reds last season.

17 minutes ago, wegner said:

They went 72-90 in 2007....that sounds great for this bunch.

Well played sir...typo on my part.

26 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

The expectations I have for the season were always going to rely more on their June or July performance than their record two weeks in

They have 4 starters out, right now. 3 of those guys, Baldwin, Teel and Hays were players they were going to rely on for some offense. I think once Teel eases back in, Pereira's back, Antonacci's up, and maybe they promote a starter or two, they'll look like a completely different team.

2 hours ago, fathom said:

So I said the other day I like Taylor as the opener. It took me two days to change my mind. Seeing Hicks pitching in close games all the time is a recipe for disaster. We’re probably 2 legit relievers away from Taylor being able to open.

You need a few interchangeable guys for this this to really work. It's like taking one leg away from a 3 legged table.

It can't be Taylor right now.

30 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

They have 4 starters out, right now. 3 of those guys, Baldwin, Teel and Hays were players they were going to rely on for some offense. I think once Teel eases back in, Pereira's back, Antonacci's up, and maybe they promote a starter or two, they'll look like a completely different team.

Pal, weren't you just saying how they weren't going to start as slow this year as the past two because they were better off this year?

13 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Pal, weren't you just saying how they weren't going to start as slow this year as the past two because they were better off this year?

I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but their record is 2 games better than the last two years. Their roster is more solid than 24 or 25. They have actual prospects closer than the last two years.

Are you angry because you don't think they'll look like a different team with Teel, Antonacci, Pereira and maybe McDougal or Schultz in the rotation? Or are you just trying out the current vague-posting fad the kids are into, now?

4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but their record is 2 games better than the last two years. Their roster is more solid than 24 or 25. They have actual prospects closer than the last two years.

Are you angry because you don't think they'll look like a different team with Teel, Antonacci, Pereira and maybe McDougal or Schultz in the rotation? Or are you just trying out the current vague-posting fad the kids are into, now?

I'm not angry, I'm agnostic.

To answer, no one is coming to rescue this pile of doo

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22 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I'm not angry, I'm agnostic.

To answer, no one is coming to rescue this pile of doo

Then I really don't understand your comment. I probably said they're in a better place before we got the news on Baldwin, and Hays and Pereira went down. They're starting two AAA OFs right now, and the mainstays are slumping.

If you're saying that Teel will be worse than Quero and McGuire, Antonacci will be a glorified Dru Baker, and McDougal/Schultz will get clobbered over 2 innings every start, that makes absolutely no sense. As usual.

2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Then I really don't understand your comment. I probably said they're in a better place before we got the news on Baldwin, and Hays and Pereira went down. They're starting two AAA OFs right now, and the mainstays are slumping.

If you're saying that Teel will be worse than Quero and McGuire, Antonacci will be a glorified Dru Baker, and McDougal/Schultz will get clobbered over 2 innings every start, that makes absolutely no sense. As usual.

They never had an outfield to begin with, let alone depth at the position.

I think Schultz would be a stud today, but this team set the MLB record for losses with Garret Crochet. Schultz and Antonacci aren't saving this crew and I like both players.

They'll be more interesting with Teel, Antonacci and Schultz but I think we're still talking about the worst team in the AL possibly. They're also an injury away from complete disaster too.

I'll say this, Burke's been improved BUT it's almost entirely tied to two things: throwing first pitch strike much more frequently, and getting batters to chase with more frequency. How sustainable is that? Well, I think both are but whether or not Burke maintains it is TBD. Fedde

I also won't hate on the offense too much nor give too much credit to the pitching the past series+ because it's really hard to hit when its really cold. Fedde and Kay are bad regardless of how they started.

23 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Then I really don't understand your comment. I probably said they're in a better place before we got the news on Baldwin, and Hays and Pereira went down. They're starting two AAA OFs right now, and the mainstays are slumping.

If you're saying that Teel will be worse than Quero and McGuire, Antonacci will be a glorified Dru Baker, and McDougal/Schultz will get clobbered over 2 innings every start, that makes absolutely no sense. As usual.

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33 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

They never had an outfield to begin with, let alone depth at the position.

I think Schultz would be a stud today, but this team set the MLB record for losses with Garret Crochet. Schultz and Antonacci aren't saving this crew and I like both players.

They'll be more interesting with Teel, Antonacci and Schultz but I think we're still talking about the worst team in the AL possibly. They're also an injury away from complete disaster too.

I'll say this, Burke's been improved BUT it's almost entirely tied to two things: throwing first pitch strike much more frequently, and getting batters to chase with more frequency. How sustainable is that? Well, I think both are but whether or not Burke maintains it is TBD. Fedde

I also won't hate on the offense too much nor give too much credit to the pitching the past series+ because it's really hard to hit when its really cold. Fedde and Kay are bad regardless of how they started.

Thee 2026 team is not the 2024 team.

4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Thee 2026 team is not the 2024 team.

It’s too close for comfort at this time

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

It’s too close for comfort at this time

Oh, come, now. They have an actual infield to plan on. They had an outfield plan, but 3 of their main options are injured. The 2024 team finished with on player who had more than 50 PA and an OPS+ above 100. Tommy Pham.

21 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Oh, come, now. They have an actual infield to plan on. They had an outfield plan, but 3 of their main options are injured. The 2024 team finished with on player who had more than 50 PA and an OPS+ above 100. Tommy Pham.

Their outfield plan of Baldwin/Hays, Acuna and Pereira sucked. Pretty sure it was rated the worst in baseball coming into the season.

51 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

You need a few interchangeable guys for this this to really work. It's like taking one leg away from a 3 legged table.

It can't be Taylor right now.

Taylor was available today, but Burke's short start means they never get to him.

If Taylor opened, maybe Burke's second time through (where he gave up his 2 runs) is in the 5th or 6th instead of the 3rd. Instead, Sims gives up the deciding runs because Burke can't go a third time through and the 6th is still too early for a leverage-only Taylor.

And that's totally a worthwhile tradeoff if a now rested Taylor gets a couple leverage innings that matter in KC. Hopefully he does!

But the shortage of reliable arms remains the reason I liked seeing them get more creative with Taylor's usage.

Every time the starter doesn't make it into the 6th, they are asking that "3 legged table" to cover the toughest pocket of a lineup twice at a minimum without guaranteeing Taylor or Dominguez gets either attempt (assuming Dominguez is pitching the 9th regardless of pocket).

Arms that you could feasibly hide with favorable matchups vs. the 5-6-7 hitters with 1 out will keep getting overexposed against one of those pockets, then they'll burn better arms anyway trying to put out the fire and/or having to get them work in decided games.

If the opponent's best get two tries against your starter and two tries against your pen, then how does neutralizing one of those latter two opportunities early compare to hoping for a chance to do it late? Considering the middle relief options available, well...

Personally I'd take a situational approach with it. I'd probably open for Burke more often than not right now. But I'm not saying there's a "right" answer here, especially without seeing how/if the pitching stabilizes over a larger sample size. Starters getting 16+ outs with any consistency would work wonders.

And if they can get the game to Taylor in leverage twice in their next 3-4 games, I'm totally fine with it not using him today. I just think it's a shame if it ends up that he was "saved" to throw in an 8-3 game in Kauffman instead.

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