1 minute ago, WestEddy said:

Not only did Getz run the front office as Director of Development, but he's now responsible for ALL 30 TEAMS!!! You guys sure give him a lot of credit. LOL. You are predisposed to not agreeing with me. You mocked me, saying the Sox would never be in on any Japanese players. But they were. "Yeah, but, yeah, but" is a weird way of admitting you were wrong. Let me know when they start giving out World Series trophies for signing random Japanese players.

As of right now, Murakami is still not a part of the "championship window."

The majority of Sox fans in Japan are already hesitating to book flights for Chicago this summer.

And there still hasn't been an appreciable attendance bump.

Boyer has been reduced to leveraging the Cubs/Imanaga/Seiya to boost tourism.

Still no marketing/sponsorship conversions from Japan.

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by caulfield12

45 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

2 - if he actually "believed the hype", he wasn't wrong. They're within 2 games of 1st place on May 1. A 6-WAR CF sure would help this team. Too bad Robert didn't hold up his end, plummeted his own value, and Getz had to get what he could. Getz got rotten lemons, and he crafted a lemonade-cider invention that is going to redefine the industry. It's actually quite the accomplishment, turning JR into a sooth-sayer, and getting what he could for a failed Robert. Certainly worthy of the FIFA Peace Prize.

Never wonder why I mock your over the top defenses of Getz.

7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Never wonder why I mock your over the top defenses of Getz.

If they got swept by let's say the Yankees and were 12-21 or whatever instead of 3 games under .500, the "anti-panickans" would be in full flight mode.

Ron would be esconced on PCA-idolizing sites.

Even expressing objective/realistic/pragmatic comments simply means "you don't love the Sox unconditionally," whatever that means.

5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

I will continue to hold the 3 straight 100 loss seasons against him instead.

Or I will keep mocking Ron for his trolling threads.

Come on man.

Is this your way of saying you're not apologizing

22 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

1) As of right now, Murakami is still not a part of the "championship window."

2) The majority of Sox fans in Japan are already hesitating to book flights for Chicago this summer.

3) And there still hadn't been an appreciable attendance bump.

4) Boyer has been reduced to leveraging the Cubs/Imanaga/Seiya to boost tourism.

5) Still no marketing/sponsorship conversions from Japan.

1-yes he is. They're 2 games out of 1st place.
2-then stop posting needlessly negative stuff that makes them sad
3-actually, they have. They had the largest attendance in years for Schultz's last home start
4-Boyer doesn't work for the city.
5- who cares? They're working on them. Tell me, what's the timeline? when Did your beloved twins have a full marketing play set up in Japan for whomever their last Japanese star was?

17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Never wonder why I mock your over the top defenses of Getz.

One has to go over the top to offset your under the belt grumblings.

2.2% playoff odds!

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

If they got swept by let's say the Yankees and were 12-21 or whatever instead of 3 games under .500, the "anti-panickans" would be in full flight mode.

Ron would be esconced on PCA-idolizing sites.

Even expressing objective/realistic/pragmatic comments simply means "you don't love the Sox unconditionally," whatever that means.

Nobody has ever criticized you here for not loving the Sox unconditionally. Maybe you can tell us what that means, since you just made that up out of whole cloth.

Why the hypotheticals? Sure, if they were 0-31, half of the opening day roster was out of baseball, we'd all be reacting in a way that you could do victory laps over. I guess reality is too hard for you to deal with, so you have to make up smug reactions to things that didn't happen.

"Getz got rotten lemons, and he crafted a lemonade-cider invention that is going to redefine the industry."

How so?

Shouldn't multiple mlb teams now be offering to poach him from the Sox with almost three years of unassailable track record?

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

"Getz got rotten lemons, and he crafted a lemonade-cider invention that is going to redefine the industry."

How so?

Shouldn't multiple mlb teams now be offering to poach him from the Sox with almost three years of unassailable track record?

If you ignore everything else including valuation of contract over prospects and letting value go to near zero, he did great!

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If you ignore everything else including valuation of contract over prospects and letting value go to near zero, he did great!

That's definitely ONE unique way to redefine the industry.

I guess the Cardinals can reference the same with Walker, Angels with Adell, Rockies with Moniak, Guardians and Rays with basically all their players....

Demonstrating patience with prospects like Colson and Schultz surely can't be replicated anywhere else.

If you look at all the SD numbers outside Machado, there's just no way they should be anywhere close to first place.

And just imagine if they had held onto Gore Wood Abrams?...but GMing is hard.

Or pulling the trigger on Mason Miller for de Vries. That took some stones.

But no World Series appearance even.

(But tons of revenue production/entertainment value.)

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by caulfield12

19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

"Getz got rotten lemons, and he crafted a lemonade-cider invention that is going to redefine the industry."

How so?

Here, I'll post this again, since you seem to glazed over it the first time:

A 6-WAR CF sure would help this team. Too bad Robert didn't hold up his end, plummeted his own value, and Getz had to get what he could. Getz got rotten lemons, and he crafted a lemonade-cider invention that is going to redefine the industry. It's actually quite the accomplishment, turning JR into a sooth-sayer, and getting what he could for a failed Robert. Certainly worthy of the FIFA Peace Prize.

5 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Here, I'll post this again, since you seem to glazed over it the first time:

A 6-WAR CF sure would help this team. Too bad Robert didn't hold up his end, plummeted his own value, and Getz had to get what he could. Getz got rotten lemons, and he crafted a lemonade-cider invention that is going to redefine the industry. It's actually quite the accomplishment, turning JR into a sooth-sayer, and getting what he could for a failed Robert. Certainly worthy of the FIFA Peace Prize.

"Shouldn't multiple mlb teams now be offering to poach him from the Sox with almost three years of unassailable track record?"

You don't know they aren't.

5 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Here, I'll post this again, since you seem to glazed over it the first time:

A 6-WAR CF sure would help this team. Too bad Robert didn't hold up his end, plummeted his own value, and Getz had to get what he could. Getz got rotten lemons, and he crafted a lemonade-cider invention that is going to redefine the industry. It's actually quite the accomplishment, turning JR into a sooth-sayer, and getting what he could for a failed Robert. Certainly worthy of the FIFA Peace Prize.

90% of small and mid market GMs would have 86'ed Robert.

Like congratulating Hahn for letting Rodon go for nothing but QOing Kimbrel, which led to Pollock which led to the crippling Benintendi deal.

One mistake was quickly transformed into three...Sox still dealing with the repercussions.

(And the talent level on the roster still decreased exchanging Robert for Acuna. Also likely Hicks Newcomb Sandlin Hays and Dominguez might not create much added value in the end, either. But time will tell.)

Funny how hit or miss he can be. I remember that Getz tried to get Jordan Walker from the Cardinals for Fedde but they turned him down. But the same GM takes back awful Acuna for Robert. Imagine Walker in RF and Pereira in CF right now.

Edited 17 hours ago17 hr by WhiteSox2023

8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

90% of small and mid market GMs would have 86'ed Robert.

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

(I'm kidding bro)

21 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

90% of small and mid market GMs would have 86'ed Robert.

Like congratulating Hahn for letting Rodon go for nothing but QOing Kimbrel, which led to Pollock which led to the crippling Benintendi deal.

One mistake was quickly transformed into three...Sox still dealing with the repercussions.

(And the talent level on the roster still decreased exchanging Robert for Acuna. Also likely Hicks Newcomb Sandlin Hays and Dominguez might not create much added value in the end, either. But time will tell.)

I didn't congratulate Hahn for letting Rodon walk without a QO, so it's nothing like it. Kimbrel for Pollock wasn't a bad deal. Pollock ended up sucking. Bad luck. And I don't understand your logic. If they kept Rodon, they still would have needed an OF.

COUNTERPOINT: The talent on the roster did not decrease when removing Robert. Peters has put up more WAR, so far. Hicks, et. al. has created the value of being 2 games out of 1st place. Eye on the prize, Holden. Those "3rd best value for free agency dollars amortized over a decade" banners are just a joke. They don't really hang those.

2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I didn't congratulate Hahn for letting Rodon walk without a QO, so it's nothing like it. Kimbrel for Pollock wasn't a bad deal. Pollock ended up sucking. Bad luck. And I don't understand your logic. If they kept Rodon, they still would have needed an OF.

COUNTERPOINT: The talent on the roster did not decrease when removing Robert. Peters has put up more WAR, so far. Hicks, et. al. has created the value of being 2 games out of 1st place. Eye on the prize, Holden. Those "3rd best value for free agency dollars amortized over a decade" banners are just a joke. They don't really hang those.

Next the arguments will be that no matter where the Sox are in the Central standings, they’re not nearly as good as Detroit or Cleveland.

Even if you had a first place Sox team, like 2012 until the final home stretch with the Tigers, you’ll still be reduced to Don Quixote waging war with windmills.

31 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

(I'm kidding bro)

Way ahead of you. He'll be sharing a cell with CORRUPT LOSER James Comey!

Edited 17 hours ago17 hr by ron883

5 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Way ahead of you. He'll be sharing a cell with CORRUPT LOSER James Comey!

6 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Way ahead of you. He'll be sharing a cell with CORRUPT LOSER James Comey!

Long live Ricketts family members!!!

22 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Long live Ricketts family members!!!

God bless those patriots. They truly love America.

Edited 16 hours ago16 hr by ron883

There’s truly nothing more enjoyable than a @ron883 thread. Dude is playing 4D chess with multiple troll jobs all in one thread.

I even see @sin city sox fan lurking, likely impressed by @ron883’s master trolling skills.

I am toasting my next Silver Bullet to both of you guys.

🍺 🍻

Edited 16 hours ago16 hr by WhiteSox2023

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Next the arguments will be that no matter where the Sox are in the Central standings, they’re not nearly as good as Detroit or Cleveland.

Even if you had a first place Sox team, like 2012 until the final home stretch with the Tigers, you’ll still be reduced to Don Quixote waging war with windmills.

What does any of this mean? Who will be making that argument?

1 minute ago, WestEddy said:

What does any of this mean? Who will be making that argument?

You'll next have to convince everyone the Sox are actually good enough to compete and might even have a realistic shot in the Central.

But that's likely an argument for down the line.

Sweeping the Angels at home does not a season make.

Even the pessimists would expect 2/3 at home against the LAA.

Beating up Soriano was the real surprise.

51 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

There’s truly nothing more enjoyable than a @ron883 thread. Dude is playing 4D chess with multiple troll jobs all in one thread.

I even see @sin city sox fan lurking, likely impressed by @ron883’s master trolling skills.

I am toasting my next Silver Bullet to both of you guys.

🍺 🍻

All while being lectured by the ministry of mediocrity about how great things really are.