On 4/30/2026 at 11:42 AM, southsider2k5 said:

I will continue to hold the 3 straight 100 loss seasons against him instead.

Or I will keep mocking Ron for his trolling threads.

Come on man.

Come on man , you 100% supported the Hahn/KW rebuild because they were mired in mediocrity in a stupid attempt by Hahn to compete with the Samardzija and Shield trades that jettisoned a lot of youth. Then oh that didn't work.., it's time to rebuild without the youth I traded away.

Hahn and KW also started the process of this rebuild only JR finally understood maybe not to let the bozos who fucked it all up twice weren't the best choice to oversee a 2nd rebuild. JR is the big boss and he was just as much if not more to blame but he's not going to fire himself.

Chris Getz was not the architect of the 3 straight 100 loss season.He was put in charge of the Titanic that had already hit the iceberg unlike his predecessor who drove the ship into the iceberg multiple times. You're projecting your hurt feelings about the 1st rebuild failing onto Getz. You were promised multiple parades by your savior and it hurt so so badly that you became bitter and now refuse to even think of those 3 season as the rebuilding process.

Getz inherited a fucked up situation and because you feel his rank or track record in the destruction deserves just as much scorn as the true masters of that destruction you assign blame to him . But but JR told us there would be a quick turnaround.

Sorry you feel like your idealism was ripped from your soul but it's just baseball.

6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Except Hicks is beyond redemption.

They could have drafted Sandlin for $397,500 in the 11th round instead of now paying $13 million or whatever…since Hicks is already a sunk cost with a negative fWAR value.

Só the real cost is actually closer to $15 million.

If Getz has the ability to go back in time and take control of a draft when he wasn't GM, does he also get to go back further and kill the baby Hitler? That would be a better trade, Sandlin, no Holocaust or WWII, and $15M.

5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Come on man , you 100% supported the Hahn/KW rebuild because they were mired in mediocrity in a stupid attempt by Hahn to compete with the Samardzija and Shield trades that jettisoned a lot of youth. Then oh that didn't work.., it's time to rebuild without the youth I traded away.

Hahn and KW also started the process of this rebuild only JR finally understood maybe not to let the bozos who fucked it all up twice weren't the best choice to oversee a 2nd rebuild. JR is the big boss and he was just as much if not more to blame but he's not going to fire himself.

Chris Getz was not the architect of the 3 straight 100 loss season.He was put in charge of the Titanic that had already hit the iceberg unlike his predecessor who drove the ship into the iceberg multiple times. You're projecting your hurt feelings about the 1st rebuild failing onto Getz. You were promised multiple parades by your savior and it hurt so so badly that you became bitter and now refuse to even think of those 3 season as the rebuilding process.

Getz inherited a fucked up situation and because you feel his rank or track record in the destruction deserves just as much scorn as the true masters of that destruction you assign blame to him . But but JR told us there would be a quick turnaround.

Sorry you feel like your idealism was ripped from your soul but it's just baseball.

It's hilarious you throw this temper tantrum, and then end it with "it's just baseball". Again, have some self-awareness and take your own advice, and recognize your self-projections over people disagreeing with you from YEARS ago that STILL piss you off enough that you are STILL stalking me.

5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Chris Getz was not the architect of the 3 straight 100 loss season.He was put in charge of the Titanic that had already hit the iceberg unlike his predecessor who drove the ship into the iceberg multiple times.

I'm imagining the crew up to their knees in water in the bridge, and the ship Captain handing his hat, medals and stripes to any crewman, saluting him, and running towards a lifeboat.

11 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

But but JR told us there would be a quick turnaround.

I'm starting to think that Getz has engineered a quick turnaround. We've been assured by a few here that we wouldn't start seeing winning seasons until well into the 2030's. JR might have just announced, "Chris Getz is the only person who has the ability to make me think outside of my own wheelhouse. The only guy to push me to make decisions I'm uncomfortable with. He's assured me he can condense 3-4 seasons of sucking down into one and a half, so therefore, he's GM."

4 hours ago, WestEddy said:

I'm starting to think that Getz has engineered a quick turnaround. We've been assured by a few here that we wouldn't start seeing winning seasons until well into the 2030's. JR might have just announced, "Chris Getz is the only person who has the ability to make me think outside of my own wheelhouse. The only guy to push me to make decisions I'm uncomfortable with. He's assured me he can condense 3-4 seasons of sucking down into one and a half, so therefore, he's GM."

So very generous his very own owners' group suggested he double his payroll from 2026 to 2027!!!

Curtis Mead has a 143 wRC+ with 8 homers in 143 PA's. Weird guy to get rid of and give away.

7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Curtis Mead has a 143 wRC+ with 8 homers in 143 PA's. Weird guy to get rid of and give away.

But can he play the outfield?

He can certainly DH.

Or they could have kept working with Mike Soroka...now AZ is enjoying all the work the Sox and Nats as bottom 3 teams invested into him.

Only $7.5 million.

Edited Friday at 11:35 PM1 day by caulfield12

Just now, caulfield12 said:

But can he play the outfield?

He can certainly DH.

Or they could have kept working with Mike Soroka...now AZ is enjoying all the work the Sox and Nats as bottom 3 teams invested into him.

I liked Mead coming into the year, thought it made sense to give him a shot. Insane to keep benetendi over him.

Mead is young and under control and his power had been zapped by an injury that historically takes quite a bit of time to come back from.

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I liked Mead coming into the year, thought it made sense to give him a shot. Insane to keep benetendi over him.

Mead is young and under control and his power had been zapped by an injury that historically takes quite a bit of time to come back from.

JR $$$$$

Getz wasn't convincing enough, apparently.

Strange that he now holds ontoAcuna so dearly.

15 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

They could have drafted Sandlin for $397,500 in the 11th round

If you want to play that game, they could have drafted Mike Trout instead of that one dude who ruptured his tendon catching a fly ball in spring training… or they could have just simply taken James Wood or Ben Rice.

That logic doesn’t play, Sir.

3 hours ago, hi8is said:

If you want to play that game, they could have drafted Mike Trout instead of that one dude who ruptured his tendon catching a fly ball in spring training… or they could have just simply taken James Wood or Ben Rice.

That logic doesn’t play, Sir.

Sure, but look at how the Rays Brewers and Guardians get their pitching.

The majority are not first round draft picks.

Their prospects come from various rounds, and they all do a great job on the international side as well.

Just think if the White Sox even produced 50% of what other teams get of the Dominican. The Dave Wilder Effect has lasted nearly twenty years now.

19 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Come on man , you 100% supported the Hahn/KW rebuild because they were mired in mediocrity in a stupid attempt by Hahn to compete with the Samardzija and Shield trades that jettisoned a lot of youth. Then oh that didn't work.., it's time to rebuild without the youth I traded away.

Hahn and KW also started the process of this rebuild only JR finally understood maybe not to let the bozos who fucked it all up twice weren't the best choice to oversee a 2nd rebuild. JR is the big boss and he was just as much if not more to blame but he's not going to fire himself.

Chris Getz was not the architect of the 3 straight 100 loss season.He was put in charge of the Titanic that had already hit the iceberg unlike his predecessor who drove the ship into the iceberg multiple times. You're projecting your hurt feelings about the 1st rebuild failing onto Getz. You were promised multiple parades by your savior and it hurt so so badly that you became bitter and now refuse to even think of those 3 season as the rebuilding process.

Getz inherited a fucked up situation and because you feel his rank or track record in the destruction deserves just as much scorn as the true masters of that destruction you assign blame to him . But but JR told us there would be a quick turnaround.

Sorry you feel like your idealism was ripped from your soul but it's just baseball.

The White sox are currently mediocre. The difference is, they were so bad that the expectation was lowered by many fans.

only JR finally understood maybe not to let the bozos who fucked it all up twice weren't the best choice to oversee a 2nd rebuild. JR is the big boss and he was just as much if not more to blame but he's not going to fire himself.

Chris Getz was not the architect of the 3 straight 100 loss season.He was put in charge of the Titanic that had already hit the iceberg unlike his predecessor who drove the ship into the iceberg multiple times. You're projecting your hurt feelings about the 1st rebuild failing onto Getz. You were promised multiple parades by your savior and it hurt so so badly that you became bitter and now refuse to even think of those 3 season as the rebuilding process.

Getz inherited a fucked up situation and because you feel his rank or track record in the destruction deserves just as much scorn as the true masters of that destruction you assign blame to him . But but JR told us there would be a quick turnaround.

Sorry you feel like your idealism was ripped from your soul but it's just baseball.

JR finally understood maybe not to let the bozos who fucked it all up twice weren't the best choice to oversee a 2nd rebuild. JR is the big boss and he was just as much if not more to blame but he's not going to fire himself.

Chris Getz was not the architect of the 3 straight 100 loss season.He was put in charge of the Titanic that had already hit the iceberg unlike his predecessor who drove the ship into the iceberg multiple times. You're projecting your hurt feelings about the 1st rebuild failing onto Getz. You were promised multiple parades by your savior and it hurt so so badly that you became bitter and now refuse to even think of those 3 season as the rebuilding process.

Getz inherited a fucked up situation and because you feel his rank or track record in the destruction deserves just as much scorn as the true masters of that destruction you assign blame to him . But but JR told us there would be a quick turnaround.

Sorry you feel like your idealism was ripped from your soul but it's just baseball.

The White sox are currently mediocre. The difference is, they were so bad that the expectation was lowered by many fans.

The two bozos Cali referred to led the White Sox to a Top 4 overall record in the majors from 2000-2012 and still easily Top 50% in the majors if you combine it. together with 2013-2022.

The White Sox aren't guaranteed anything yet.

Mune doesn't have to stay in Chicago.

Odds are highly against it, unless the Sox have to double their payroll between now and 2028.

And the highly rated pitching depth in the minors has been decimated by injuries/non performance.

Offense puts butts in the seats, but elite pitching usually wins out in the post season. See 2000-2004 Sox baseball.

Right now, Martin and Taylor are the only two elite arms, with Burke somewhere in the middle. And Sandlin is still a massive question mark. The scouting report will get out quickly and he'll have to make some adjustments.

This is, in the overall scheme of things, just the beginning of the second day at Gettysburg.

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by caulfield12

Also, 2013-2016 in Sox baseball annals was more accurately a "retooling on the fly" simply because JR didn't want the big league team to bottom out...which is eventually what transpired in 2017-18 because there just wasn't enough depth/resources around that quite solid core.

In many ways, it was sparked by the Dunn/Danks failures and later by M.Cabrera/LaRoche and the Eaton/Sale mutiny under Ventura...and of course the ill-fated Shark and Shields trades that were both attempts to sell off youth for current year competitiveness, instead of sounder long range strategic planning.

14 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Curtis Mead has a 143 wRC+ with 8 homers in 143 PA's. Weird guy to get rid of and give away.

Is this a serious post?

It’s amazing that @Look at Ray Ray Run can’t admit he was at least partially wrong about Getz and instead calls the 4th best team in the AL mediocre.

And FWIW, Boston Smith is currently 4th in the SAL in wRC+ at 158. Yes he’s old for the league, but he’s also a catcher. Sucks we gave up a talented player in Mead before we could him another shot, but at least we got something back of interest. Rick Hahn would have cashed out on Mead for nothing.

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

And FWIW, Boston Smith is currently 4th in the SAL in wRC+ at 158. Yes he’s old for the league, but he’s also a catcher. Sucks we gave up a talented player in Mead before we could him another shot, but at least we got something back of interest. Rick Hahn would have cashed out on Mead for nothing.

They also had zero room for Mead.

1 minute ago, PaleAleSox said:

They also had zero room for Mead.

I guess they could have chosen him over Sosa. But yeah, still likely would have been pushed out. Though having him against lefties over Acuna would be great right now.

21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

It’s amazing that @Look at Ray Ray Run can’t admit he was at least partially wrong about Getz and instead calls the 4th best team in the AL mediocre.

The Sox have a run differential of 1. By definition that is a mediocre baseball team.

The fact that someone like you doesnt understand that is amazing.

Im sorry that youve had your expectations recalibrate by being a historically inept franchise, but understand it is the lack of expectations that is making this so much fun. Not the fact that this is some great team. Or even good.

You can be fun and not great. Thats why throwing away years and years of trying to compete was such a disaster.

Edited 17 hours ago17 hr by Look at Ray Ray Run

12 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

They also had zero room for Mead.

They are DH'ing Benetendi.

You always have room for a guy with a 143 wRC+.

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

They are DH'ing Benetendi.

You always have room for a guy with a 143 wRC+.

Did he have that before this season?

1 minute ago, PaleAleSox said:

Did he have that before this season?

What does this even mean?

They acquired Mead at the trade deadline last year. Can you imagine if they threw Vargas away after a half a season?

Isn't the point of assessing moves to review them after results start matriculating in?

You can enjoy this team being competitive without being hyperbolic.

Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

They are DH'ing Benetendi.

You always have room for a guy with a 143 wRC+.

This is an absolutely absurd hindsight take. Dude put up a 64 wRC+ for us last year and I don’t recall you saying we should have kept him over Sosa. What’s funny is I actually said multiple times we should probably trade Sosa to open up a spot on the bench for Mead this year and even I can’t rip Getz for trading him.

And Benintendi being on this roster isn’t Getz’s fault, it’s Jerry’s fault for being a dumb cheap f***.