1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Look at the top 5 to 10 top prospects on this team and then ask yourself which ones, and how many of them you are willing to give up. That's going to give you the answer if you are buying or selling.

-If you aren't willing to give up guys in the top 5, you aren't getting a top bat or pitching.

-If you aren't willing to give up guys in the top 10, you aren't getting a starting position player, midrotation starter, or top reliever.

I'd rather sell Peters, Grichuk and a bullpen arm and get back a back end top 100 type. 2/3 the AL is going to think they are in it. It's going to be a seller's market and there's no real reason we have to pretend we're a 90 win club with a few additions. This is from all available data a 78 win club (I mean good job just getting to that point already) that for the first 1/3 of the season played like an 88 win club. No shame in that, but lets not fool ourselves.

The best mid or late summer news this team can give its fanbase is not a big trade, but a Mune extension.

I have an idiotic idea.

Tatsuya Imai has an opt-out after this year. He seems to hate Houston. Could we get something going here with Mune and Rikku? Doubt it would take much at this point.

1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

I could see dealing Carlson for pitching. He’s currently out with a broken thumb though, so no idea of his value. Not giving up Braden, Bonemer, McDougal or Hagen, so… I guess I am not geeked to go all in.

Very few top 100 prospects have been dealt the last couple of trade deadlines, so unless we’re going after someone akin to Skubal, I don’t think any of those guys would be in scope. Candidly, I’d also prefer hanging onto Carlson a bit longer and let him build up some value. I think we’d be selling low on him. I still think we could add some pitching by trading prospects below the guys you referenced. That being said, we’d some some guys to rebound a bit and a few others to get healthy.

On 6/2/2026 at 6:16 AM, Falstaff said:

I could see being a buyer for solid bullpen help. Would a team like the Giants be interested in trading a bullpen arm for a White Sox prospect?

Sox should use their own BP prospects.

Ben Peoples should be called up. But it's his walk rate that's keeping him down. 5.8 BB per 9 and 11.2 K

WHIP is still good though at 1.180 because he only gives up 4.9 hits per 9. 0.3 HR per 9. He turned 25 May 1st.

Garrett Schoenle is 28 and he's put up 2 good seasons in a row at Birmingham last year and Charlotte this year.

2026 : 1.86 ERA , 1.190 WHIP 19.1 IP, 15 H, 17 K, 8 BB, 1HR . Maybe the Sox don't think his stuff is good enough .

They just got Rule 5 draftee Peyton Pallette back from the Guardians. Had a good April but lost the strike zone and in May so they dumped him.

He's pitched in 3 games for Charlotte without giving up a run

3.1 IP, 1 H, 4 K, 3 BB.

It's always about command with pitchers.

If they can call up Tyler Schweitzer they can call up Peoples or Schoenle. Pallette too but never called him up last year and didn't protect him in the Rule 5 so they didn't mind losing him.

1 hour ago, Nokona said:

I have an idiotic idea.

Tatsuya Imai has an opt-out after this year. He seems to hate Houston. Could we get something going here with Mune and Rikku? Doubt it would take much at this point.

He's also got an opt out after next season too ,but the way he's pitching I doubt he could get more anywhere else even if he hates Houston.

Signed for 3 yrs $54M but if he pitches 100innings this year he goes up to $21M in 2027 and 2028 . He's currently at 34.1 IP.

Houston would probably love it if he opted out but they will probably just see if he can pitch better the rest of the year after he makes some adjustments and gets used to MLB.

Imai has had trouble adjusting to the pitch clock and the difference in ball texture leading to lack of command.

You try to get Houston to kick in $25 million but then they'd want a prospect.

Taking on the whole salary isn't likely.

Hagen Smith and Jeral Perez for Rutschman makes absolutely no sense, yet yahoo sports has an entire speculative article about it.

Well for Baltimore it's definitely more logical.

Buying an increasingly expensive post hype arb guy with just 2 1/2 years of control....when Teel is returning?

Adley as a DH after his last 2-3 years?

Yuck.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/white-sox-orioles-trade-adley-163610910.html

"Hagen Smith is the Orioles white whale. Their rotation is severely lacking, again, and they need top-end talent. Smith can be just that, as he's a top-50 prospect per MLB Pipeline who has a 60-grade fastball and slider. Smith was selected fifth overall in the 2024 MLB Draft and has already made his way to Triple-A. He's expected to make his big-league debut later this season on the south side, assuming he isn't traded. The Orioles can add to their rotation for the short and long-term, while clearing room for Basallo, a former top-10 prospect in baseball himself."

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3 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I'd rather sell Peters, Grichuk and a bullpen arm and get back a back end top 100 type. 2/3 the AL is going to think they are in it. It's going to be a seller's market and there's no real reason we have to pretend we're a 90 win club with a few additions. This is from all available data a 78 win club (I mean good job just getting to that point already) that for the first 1/3 of the season played like an 88 win club. No shame in that, but lets not fool ourselves.

The best mid or late summer news this team can give its fanbase is not a big trade, but a Mune extension.

No way. We are 1.5 games behind Cleveland. And the beauty of it is there isn't rally any over performance. Within reason, we need to go for it.

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Sox should use their own BP prospects.

Ben Peoples should be called up. But it's his walk rate that's keeping him down. 5.8 BB per 9 and 11.2 K

WHIP is still good though at 1.180 because he only gives up 4.9 hits per 9. 0.3 HR per 9. He turned 25 May 1st.

Garrett Schoenle is 28 and he's put up 2 good seasons in a row at Birmingham last year and Charlotte this year.

2026 : 1.86 ERA , 1.190 WHIP 19.1 IP, 15 H, 17 K, 8 BB, 1HR . Maybe the Sox don't think his stuff is good enough .

They just got Rule 5 draftee Peyton Pallette back from the Guardians. Had a good April but lost the strike zone and in May so they dumped him.

He's pitched in 3 games for Charlotte without giving up a run

3.1 IP, 1 H, 4 K, 3 BB.

It's always about command with pitchers.

If they can call up Tyler Schweitzer they can call up Peoples or Schoenle. Pallette too but never called him up last year and didn't protect him in the Rule 5 so they didn't mind losing him.

The Sox have a massive roster squeeze coming, which makes even 40 man roster spots precious. Right now, we have seven players on the 60 day IL. Of those guys, Teel and hopefully three pitchers (Thorpe, Bush, & Berroa) are back before the end of the season. Additionally, Braden Montgomery & Hagen Smith likely require spots at some point. That’s six guys who will eventually need to go to open up roster spots. There is definitely some fat on the 40 man that can be DFA’d with minimal pain, but adding more guys you don’t want to eventually lose control of only adds more complexity to the problem.

Prospects I could see moved at the deadline:

• Bergolla, SS/2B

• Shelton, 2B/3B

• Mogollon, 2B

• Lodise, SS

• Smith, CA

• LaCombe, RHP

• Davis, LHP

• George, RHP

• Adams, RHP

I think some combo of these guys could get you some short-term pitching help at the deadline. My guess is to land a controllable mid-rotation starter would require dipping into the McDougal, Carlson, & Fauske tier, which I’d really like to avoid if at all possible.

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Prospects I could see moved at the deadline:

• Bergolla, SS/2B

• Shelton, 2B/3B

• Mogollon, 2B

• Lodise, SS

• Smith, CA

• LaCombe, RHP

• Davis, LHP

• George, RHP

• Adams, RHP

I think some combo of these guys could get you some short-term pitching help at the deadline. My guess is to land a controllable mid-rotation starter would require dipping into the McDougal, Carlson, & Fauske tier, which I’d really like to avoid if at all possible.

Does Mason Adams really have more value to other teams than the Sox?

If you replaced Sandlin/Fedde with Hagen and Schultz....you still have hardly any depth, and what are the odds both those young guys would make it from some point in June through September?

Schultz will hit his season total of 84 innings from last year pretty quickly.

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12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Does Mason Adams really have more value to other teams than the Sox?

If you replaced Sandlin/Fedde with Hagen and Schultz....you still have hardly any depth, and what are the odds both those young guys would make it from some point in June through September?

Schultz will hit his season total of 84 innings from last year pretty quickly.

Regarding Mason Adams, no idea what his value is right now, but if he gets back to Charlotte and performs well he’ll be worth something. Major league ready arm fully covered from TJS with three options available whenever he’s added of the 40 man will attract some teams. The Sox could obviously decide it’s better to keep him as depth (which I totally fine with). Just saying he’s a possible chip.

For Schutlz, his targeted innings was 110 coming into the season. Not sure if that’s changed due to the knee injury, but theoretically he could throw another 71 innings which is the equivalent of 14 five inning starts. As for Smith, the Sox purposely ramped him up slowly so he could make it to the end of the season with the big league club. He is unlikely to give you more than five innings, but there is a chance (no guarantee) they are productive ones.

As for depth, you still would have Sandlin and at some point McDougal, Shane Smith, and hopefully Thorpe are back. All four of those guys are wild cards, which is why we should probably add a rental #3 type if we are serious about competing this year. I maintain we should commit to developing Schultz and eventually Hagen (or McDougal) at the major league level this year. It will require some creativity in bullpen design from Getz, but it’s critical that we don’t lose sight of the long-term vision even if we do some buying this year.

17 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The short term answer may need to be Hagen Smith. It may be risky, but I think now is the time to see what you have in him.

The problem there, even if he turns the corner and flashes the same stuff in the bigs - is that he has never thrown over 100 IP in a season and is already nearing his professional high in innings pitched.

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

My guess is to land a controllable mid-rotation starter would require dipping into the McDougal, Carlson, & Fauske tier, which I’d really like to avoid if at all possible.

Yea, if that’s the cost for a mid rotation controllable arm then no thanks.

5 hours ago, hi8is said:

The problem there, even if he turns the corner and flashes the same stuff in the bigs - is that he has never thrown over 100 IP in a season and is already nearing his professional high in innings pitched.

Hagen through about 90 innings last year and 91 the year before. I’m guessing 130 to 140 is probably the target for him this year. The Sox have stated they were purposely ramping him up slowly at AAA so he could finish out the season with the big league club. 140 innings means he could make 18 five inning starts, which is how many he’d get if called up now and not skipped. That may sound like a big jump, but the Sox pushed Crochet to 146 in year 1 as a starter with his us and his previous career high was only 65.

5 hours ago, hi8is said:

Yea, if that’s the cost for a mid rotation controllable arm then no thanks.

Which is why I’d go the rental route.

I wonder where the Sox are with Mune, there are 3 options; extend, trade, or plays out option becomes free agent. If the Sox don't plan on signing him or feel they can't then sell.

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39 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

I wonder where the Sox are with Mune, there are 3 options; extend, trade, or plays out option becomes free agent. If the Sox don't plan on signing him or feel they can't then sell.

We have to resign Murakami at all costs. Given our lack of long-term payroll commitments, I could see Jerry finally agreeing to a large contact, especially when you consider the value Muni brings in from the Japanese market. The only real concern I have is that ridiculous Vlad Guerrero contract being used as a comp. No way Jerry ever approaches anything like that and hopefully that’s not what Murakami is expecting.

I wonder what it would take to get Carmen Mlodzinski from Pittsburgh? They had a disagreement about him pitching out of the pen and he could certainly have a spot in our rotation. Only 27 and controlled through 2029.

15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

We have to resign Murakami at all costs. Given our lack of long-term payroll commitments, I could see Jerry finally agreeing to a large contact, especially when you consider the value Muni brings in from the Japanese market. The only real concern I have is that ridiculous Vlad Guerrero contract being used as a comp. No way Jerry ever approaches anything like that and hopefully that’s not what Murakami is expecting.

I am all on board with extending Muni, he would be great to build around. If they do extend him, I could see Jacob Gonzalez as part of a trade package.

36 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

I wonder what it would take to get Carmen Mlodzinski from Pittsburgh? They had a disagreement about him pitching out of the pen and he could certainly have a spot in our rotation. Only 27 and controlled through 2029.

Yeah I saw this idea kicked around somewhere last week or weekend. I was wondering the same.

On 6/4/2026 at 7:49 PM, WestEddy said:

Billy Carlson, Ky Bush and two mopes. Git R Done.

Carlson in a Detmers deal would be barf level for me. If I deal Carlson, which is fine - I'd want a similar prospect swap back. Or recent former young guy.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Which is why I’d go the rental route.

Don't like that idea either . Why give up minor league depth for someone who will be here at the longest 4 months (July through Oct , early trade and playoff run but likely just 2+ months ,August to the rest of the regular season or an early playoff exit). Unless you're giving up the excess 40 man ( Hays, Pereira, Hill, Acuna, Grichuk, Romo, Nishida, Benintendi, Fedde, Tyler Davis, Tyler Gilbert, Trevor Richards, Brandon Eisert, Jordan Hicks ) or extra relief pitchers types (Pallette, Schoenele, Peoples ) not on the 40.

Sox actually have 48 on the 40 man roster but because 8 are on the 60 day DL they don't count but they can be traded. (Thorpe, Bush , Vasil, Leasure, Berroa, Baldwin, Teel, Tanner Murray). Or you could trade some triple A guys on the 40 like SP Joe Rock, Shane Smith, Chris Murphy , Tyler Schweitzer, Jonathan Cannon, Junior Perez, Wikelman Gonzalez. I don't know all the ins and out of trading injured minor leaguers since there are guys like Alexander Albertus who the Sox got from the Dodgers but was injured a long time after being acquired.

I just named 32 guys (not counting Albertus). By August 1st I'm guessing at least 5 of them are no longer on the White Sox. Some of them like Teel or Shane Smith might be safe but others I didn't mention like Sandlin and Davitt may not be. But most are the guys who you could possibly move among those deemed near MLB ready and MLB players.

I don't think there is any doubt you trade for Skubal and go all-in on this team.

I've said for years while this board was saying 'Getz is a nightmare he can't ever add' I said 'in 2026 we will be a few games over five hundred and Getz is going to add' and now here we are and the same people are saying 'oh we should sell'? That ta-reeks of hypocrisy

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

We have to resign Murakami at all costs. Given our lack of long-term payroll commitments, I could see Jerry finally agreeing to a large contact, especially when you consider the value Muni brings in from the Japanese market. The only real concern I have is that ridiculous Vlad Guerrero contract being used as a comp. No way Jerry ever approaches anything like that and hopefully that’s not what Murakami is expecting.

It would take balls of steel to trade him this year but IF he is dead set on testing his value on the FA market it has to be considered given he's the biggest trade chip they have who isn't signed long term especially with the 2027 season in limbo.

It surely would be a blow to this year and possible future years with him in tow. It's been so much fun having a guy the rest of baseball was so chicken to sign come here and be a sensation like some of the biggest names from Japan like Ichiro and Ohtani. He's that next level below them huge but multiple years of being among the HR leaders puts him right up there. Also the longer he's signed for the the more money that comes in. Just how much is hard to say but more than most American players bring in from other countries or big Japanese corporations who might not have been willing to commit short term but will jump on board for the long term. The Sox need to be exploring that already. Find out the sponsors for the other Japanese players and get busy. Ishbia might be a lot more astute than Jerry is at dealing with international corporations.

I know he's said he'd like to stay but all Free Agents to be say that stuff. It would also depend on the return in trade . Would have to be big to soften the blow to the fan base. Maybe if Gonzalez hits 5 or 6 more HRs while Mune is out, replacing him might not hurt the team as much.

I don't think it happens but they need to figure it out before they trade away Gonzalez , which I also think won't happen. He's already been a big part of keeping the team afloat offensively without Murakami.