maggsmaggs Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Jose Santiago, here as his numbers from last year, not bad actually: http://forecaster.chicagosports.chicagotri...player.cgi?1858 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzietheairedale Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Looks like another lousy, cheap middle reliever who'll be gone by mid-May :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I can see another nightmare in the making. Middle relief pitchers named Jose are no good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Wow, a savior to the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 for those of you making Jose Paniagu jokes.... From baseballreference.com: Most Similar by Age 25. Keith Atherton (988) 26. Jose Paniagua (980) 27. Donnie Moore (985) 28. Chuck Hartenstein (977) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I hated the Paniagua signing, was against it from day 1, and caught crap about it here. But this isn't bad. They aren't going to find out if he can get people out in a pennant race. He'll have to earn a spot on the team with a good spring training. He will have to impress, or he will not make the team, really no risk for the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Paniagua and his 108.00 ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 This signing is a NON-news as this guy is not very good. His 2003 ERA was all kinds of deceptive. Yawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I hated the Paniagua signing, was against it from day 1, and caught crap about it here. But this isn't bad. They aren't going to find out if he can get people out in a pennant race. He'll have to earn a spot on the team with a good spring training. He will have to impress, or he will not make the team, really no risk for the White Sox. Got to agree with you on this one, and I'll give you some props for your bad mouthing of the Jose Paniagua signing, what a mistake that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I don't know why I even bother complaining, but I can't stand how some of you think that every move the Sox make is done as a blockbuster. the Jose Paniagua signing wasn't bad. did it work out? no, but he signed a dirt cheap contract and was an up-and-coming reliever just two years prior to us signing it. it was, like this, a safe signing. it may or may not work out, but please just because the Sox sign someone, don't make it seem as though they are making a big deal of it and don't make it seem as though they are the only team to sign guys like Paniagua and Santiago. I can't really remember Santiago from last season, but he put up some decent numbers if that means anything. give him a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Don't write this guy off, I remember seeing him pitch against the Sox and hearing the Tribe announcers mention how this was the first time in a long time Santiago had been healthy. I remember he had a very good fastball (94-95), although his control was questionable, but he pitched very well against the Sox. I thought his other pitcher was a slider, but I could be wrong. Its a minor league signing of a guy that has pretty solid stuff. This seems like a good move to me. You can never have too much depth, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 When can I order my post-season tickets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 When can I order my post-season tickets? I'll get you in touch with a Cubs broker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 :fthecubs :fthecubs :fthecubs :fthecubs :fthecubs Will I even be able to find the article in the paper tomorrow, hidden behind the Jose Macias Cub signing? :fthecubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 This guys ERA will go the way of R.White ..UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 I don't know why I even bother complaining, but I can't stand how some of you think that every move the Sox make is done as a blockbuster. the Jose Paniagua signing wasn't bad. did it work out? no, but he signed a dirt cheap contract and was an up-and-coming reliever just two years prior to us signing it. it was, like this, a safe signing. it may or may not work out, but please just because the Sox sign someone, don't make it seem as though they are making a big deal of it and don't make it seem as though they are the only team to sign guys like Paniagua and Santiago. I can't really remember Santiago from last season, but he put up some decent numbers if that means anything. give him a chance. Agreed very much. We signed this guy because there is a possibility he could be the 5th or 6th reliever in our bullpen, not because he's going to be our savior. We didn't sign him to be the messiah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 It seems this may not be a done deal. Apparently Santiago just changed agents which leaves the new contract up in the air. http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb...eball-headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 For those that can't read LA Times. Right-hander Jose Santiago and the White Sox agreed to a minor league contract, but the pitcher then notified the team he was changing agents, leaving the status of the deal unclear. Under the agreement between the team and the agent, Santiago would get a $550,000, one-year contract if he is added to the major league roster and the chance to earn $125,000 in bonuses: $25,000 each for 35, 45, 50, 55 and 60 games played. . I got a feeling Santiago will sign, that seems like a very fair deal and I'd have nothing against having him as the 6th or 7th guy in the pen as long as he is healthy. Him, Grilli, now Wunsch, some very solid back end pieces. My hope is that the Sox plan on them being back end pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Rector Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Why is it that so many White Sox fans on the Internet automatically seem to assume that anyone who their team signs is worthless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Uribe, Grilli, now Santiago?! Did I say that JR is cheap? I take it all back; sorry Jerry. You're the man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 This signing is a NON-news as this guy is not very good. His 2003 ERA was all kinds of deceptive. Yawn. Agreed. His WHIP was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Why is it that so many White Sox fans on the Internet automatically seem to assume that anyone who their team signs is worthless? That's not usually my take on things. But, I can see nothing to get excited about with this signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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