November 20, 200421 yr Man, jim gray was trembling while reporting on the incident. That's f***ed up. He was having a real hard time getting a thought up. He was shaken. I should note that he made a referance to be right next to Artest while Artest was laying on the scorers table. So, if that is true then Gray was literally in the middle of it all. I would be shaken too.
November 20, 200421 yr where was this guy? I missed that part. Who did he beat on and where? He was mostly off camera, according to Gray he was "credentialed". He was easily 300 pounds. He had Freddie Jones restrained with one arm, and was pummeling him in the side of the head with his free hand/balled-fist.
November 20, 200421 yr Fight.of.the.year. Better than that Bulls fight a couple weeks ago.... Better than the flub fans and Dodgers fight back in 2000 too.
November 20, 200421 yr He was mostly off camera, according to Gray he was "credentialed". He was easily 300 pounds. He had Freddie Jones restrained with one arm, and was pummeling him in the side of the head with his free hand/balled-fist. ahh ok. THat would explain why I missed it.
November 20, 200421 yr Man, jim gray was trembling while reporting on the incident. That's f***ed up. Yeah, no kidding. That would be some scary s***. I'd be scared.
November 20, 200421 yr alright guys, i'm trying to catch up on all this...that video that was posted is just confusing as all hell....can anyone get me up to date.
November 20, 200421 yr I got this from basketballboards.net. Does this work for any of you? http://s92801878.onlinehome.us/fight.avi
November 20, 200421 yr alright guys, i'm trying to catch up on all this...that video that was posted is just confusing as all hell....can anyone get me up to date. Artest fouls Ben Wallace. Ben Wallace shoves Artest as hard as he possbily can. Artest keeps cool and avoids that whole alteraction by laying on the scorers table while there is a scrum with some DET and IND players. Then some fan comes in and throws a bottle at Artest. He snaps, jumps up and runs into the stand. The rest was just a riot.
November 20, 200421 yr Steven A. Smith is attempting to rationalize this incident and protect the NBA. It's pathetic. I wish someone can throw beer on this idiot. "These basketball players are PROTECTING themselves." Plastic cups have sharp edges these days, you know.
November 20, 200421 yr I got this from basketballboards.net. Does this work for any of you? http://s92801878.onlinehome.us/fight.avi It works for me.
November 20, 200421 yr Artest fouls Ben Wallace. Ben Wallace shoves Artest as hard as he possbily can. Artest keeps cool and avoids that whole alteraction by laying on the scorers table while there is a scrum with some DET and IND players. Then some fan comes in and throws a bottle at Artest. He snaps, jumps up and runs into the stand. The rest was just a riot. gracias
November 20, 200421 yr ...and the NBA wants to know why no one cares anymore....it needs an attitude change.
November 20, 200421 yr Artest fouls Ben Wallace. Ben Wallace shoves Artest as hard as he possbily can. Artest keeps cool and avoids that whole alteraction by laying on the scorers table while there is a scrum with some DET and IND players. Then some fan comes in and throws a bottle at Artest. He snaps, jumps up and runs into the stand. The rest was just a riot. It was a plastic cup, not a bottle. It may not seem like much but that is a huge difference. A plastic cup is no threat to injure you, a bottle would be. If it was a bottle then Artest may have been justified, for a plastic cup, not so much.
November 20, 200421 yr It was a plastic cup, not a bottle. It may not seem like much but that is a huge difference. A plastic cup is no threat to injure you, a bottle would be. If it was a bottle then Artest may have been justified, for a plastic cup, not so much. It almost got him square in the face. Also, if he just layed there in all likelyhood more s*** would have been thrown at him.
November 20, 200421 yr s*** a ref got a huge shot to the head with a cup full of something. Damn that would hurt like hell.
November 20, 200421 yr Come on people think? What's gonna happen when you throw something at a player who is in the heat of a battle. THINK!
November 20, 200421 yr ESPN Basketball crew has suggested the NBA install nets between the floor and court, and removal of courtside seats. Was Wrigley Field under this much scrutiny following their brawl?
November 20, 200421 yr It almost got him square in the face. Also, if he just layed there in all likelyhood more s*** would have been thrown at him. Its still a plastic cup. Plus, he has more than just the option of going into the stands or laying there, he walks away end of incident. And if you do go into the stands, you better be damn sure that you at least go after the culprit, Jim Gray is saying that the guy who Artest went after was not the person who threw the cup. So basically Artest assaulted an innocent bystander, but lets keep defending him.
November 20, 200421 yr s*** a ref got a huge shot to the head with a cup full of something. Damn that would hurt like hell. But did he charge the stands??????
November 20, 200421 yr Author s*** a ref got a huge shot to the head with a cup full of something. Damn that would hurt like hell. That one was a bottle.
November 20, 200421 yr But did he charge the stands?????? No, he doesn't have teamate to defend. He didn't just almost get in a fight with a player on the other team. He wasn't already riled up.
November 20, 200421 yr Jim Gray is saying that the guy who Artest went after was not the person who threw the cup. So basically Artest assaulted an innocent bystander, but lets keep defending him. yeah according to Gray, the first thrower was the guy in the white hat, who actually pulls Artest off of the kid with the glasses... at first, white hat guy is just trying to protect the other kid, but then he uses his free hand to land a few punches on Artest.
November 20, 200421 yr The best part IMO is when the pacers are getting escorted off the court and getting totally pelted with beer and garbage. Priceless!
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