YoungstownIndians Posted February 9, 2005 Author Share Posted February 9, 2005 In my opinion, this is how the projections for this division should be. Twins 70% Sox 10% Indians 10% Tigers 9% Royals 1% And anyone who doesn't think this should be our opening day game thread is nuts. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree 100% with your predictions. ? is behind the Tigers though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 QUOTE(YoungstownIndians @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 06:46 PM) I agree 100% with your predictions. ? is behind the Tigers though... Do you go to the university there in Youngstown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Listen......you can;t come here and expect to be taken under the helms when you come in saying "The Indians will OWN the Sox this year!" Just ease off the Indians nuts a little. RE: Indians suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungstownIndians Posted February 9, 2005 Author Share Posted February 9, 2005 I dont think that. Thats what I would like to beleive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungstownIndians Posted February 10, 2005 Author Share Posted February 10, 2005 BUMB. This is a fun topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 QUOTE(YoungstownIndians @ Feb 10, 2005 -> 03:08 PM) BUMB. This is a fun topic! You know whatelse is a fun topic? Suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 70% Twins? That is just sad. Were is the hope? Here's a better question to ask. It's simple over/under. Min 92W over/under? under. Chi 83W over/under? over. Cle 80W over/under? under. Det 72W over/under? over. Kan 58W over/under? over. Min: We've seen enough of the new MIF in 04 to assume a decline D. Chi: Upgraded rotation & pen more than makes up for loss of HRs. Cle: 9-10 vs Det last yr. Det outscored them 136-98. Percival & Maggs give Det a bigger edge. Det: See above. Kan: I have to believe they can eek out at least 1 more win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 Another guy I forgot all about Cleveland having is Aaron Boone...he could be a big help to them as well. He should be back and ready by opening day from his ACL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Feb 14, 2005 -> 09:47 AM) Another guy I forgot all about Cleveland having is Aaron Boone...he could be a big help to them as well. He should be back and ready by opening day from his ACL. Recovering from an ACL injury, I would be shocked if Boone has any kind of a decent year. It usually takes a while to get back into playing shape, and regain the mobility and speed that you lost. It isn't like a bone break, that once it is healed you are fine again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 (edited) Yeah I know an ACL injury is normally a 2 year recovery time. One to fully heal the 2nd to over come it mentally. It is possible he could impact though. I have had the injury and the surgery so I am familiar with the recovery time...mentally it is a lot harder to come back from than the physical part. I doubt Aaron will have a big effect early but down the stretch he could. Edited February 14, 2005 by EvilJester99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Feb 14, 2005 -> 09:51 AM) Yeah I know an ACL injury is normally a 2 year recovery time. One to fully heal the 2nd to over come it mentally. It is possible he could impact though. I have had the injury and the surgery so I am familiar with the recovery time...mentally it is a lot harder to come back from than the physical part. I doubt Aaron will have a big effect early but down the stretch he could. Most porfessional athletes will tell you it takes about 18 months for the physical recovery and the mental trust in the knee to return. Physically you're fine in about 9-12 months, it takes awhile for the knee to feel "normal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 Aaron Boone is yet another NL to AL crossover that didn't work out. He batted .254 with the Yankees in 2003. Can anybody think of any hitters that came over from the NL to dominate the AL in recent years? I can only think of Vladimir Guerrero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(ptatc @ Feb 14, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) Most porfessional athletes will tell you it takes about 18 months for the physical recovery and the mental trust in the knee to return. Physically you're fine in about 9-12 months, it takes awhile for the knee to feel "normal." My knee felt fine after about 9 to 10 months. I had ACL and MCL worked on. My doctor had to move part of my hamstring muscle to the side of my knee to keep it from bowing outward. ACL was blown and MCL was severely stretched. This was about 7 years ago also. I would think Boone will be strong and ready to roll by the start of this season but I am not sure how is trust factor in his knee will be. Time will tell on that I guess. Edited February 14, 2005 by EvilJester99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Feb 14, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) My knee felt fine after about 9 to 10 months. I had ACL and MCL worked on. My doctor had to move part of my hamstring muscle to the side of my knee to keep it from bowing outward. ACL was blown and MCL was severely stretched. This was about 7 years ago also. I would think Boone will be strong and ready to roll by the start of this season but I am not sure how is trust factor in his knee will be. Time will tell on that I guess. Physically he should be ready to go. I don't remember which knee was injured but he may have some difficulty with planting and pivoting on that leg. The rehab may be different due to the type of ACL graft used also. Some physicians use a section of the semitendonosis hamsrting tendon, some use part of the patella tendon. Both have adavantages and disadvantages dealing with baseball specific activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 I'm usually not one for bumping threads, but many people requested this for the *Official* Opening Day thread, so I am going to pin this. 5 days and counting, I can't wait!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) I'm usually not one for bumping threads, but many people requested this for the *Official* Opening Day thread, so I am going to pin this. 5 days and counting, I can't wait!!! Great decision, I love this f***ing thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 The people have spoken. Look no further than the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I do not fear the Indians. Nothing about their pitching staff scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 06:56 PM) I do not fear the Indians. Nothing about their pitching staff scares me. Jake Westbrook(3.38), Scott Elarton(5.90), Cliff Lee(5.43), Kevin Millwood(4.85) and Jason Davis(5.51). Seems pretty damn scary to me. Edit: Sabathia(4.12) is hurt, he doesn't count. Edited March 31, 2005 by Kalapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 In the sprots weekly I got today, more of the experts picked the tribe to win the central than the twins. The sox got no votes. I agree that I just don't the pitching holding up. But that offense will more fearsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Kevin Wheeler the dude whose on the Score at like 1 AM to 5 predicted the standings as follows: Twins White Sox Detroit Cleveland Royals he also mentioned that if any of the top 4 team gets the breaks they can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I dont understand why everyone thinks the Indians are going to be the best offensive team around. I see a bunch of players who had career years. How often can that be repeated?? Not to mention a pitching staff that has been horrrible, a terrible bullpen anchored by Rhodes (uhh) and Wickman. I dont see Millwood having an ERA under 5 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 10:16 AM) I dont understand why everyone thinks the Indians are going to be the best offensive team around. I see a bunch of players who had career years. How often can that be repeated?? Not to mention a pitching staff that has been horrrible, a terrible bullpen anchored by Rhodes (uhh) and Wickman. I dont see Millwood having an ERA under 5 this year. They had a bunch of young players that had career years ... so far. What they do from here on out, remains to be seen. The odds are some of them are going to at least perform as well, if not better, than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palehose23 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 This year reminds me so much of the year 2000 its scary. We really did not know what we were getting that year with Sirotka, Parque, Baldwin, Wells etc. A young left handed pitcher coming out of the bullpen by the name of Mark Buerhle. Not a heralded bunch coming out of camp but they won the most game in the American League that year. We all know what happened in the playoffs but that is besides the point. Podsednik is coming to a new league but one thing that never slumps is speed so I know he will be fine. Iguchi- Nobody knows what he could do Konerko- Seems like he is hitting his peak right now and its his walk year (I believe) so he needs to put up big numbers to get that nice contract. Dye- coming over from the cavernous Network Associates to the bandbox we like to call Comiskey will be a boon for his power numbers Rowand- I think we are witnessing the continuation of a All-Star caliber career. Aaron seems comfortable now that he is guaranteed an everyday spot in center. look for 30+ Hr's from A Row. Everett/Thomas- Look out, they both came into spring in tip top shape and Carl is swinging the bat really well down in Arizona. Now many players have done that in the past and then come up north and got cold so we must take a wait and see approach. Frank will be Frank (when healthy) Uribe- a solid .270 with 20+ HR and steady defense is all I expect anything more will be gravy Pierzynski- this is the wild card- if he hits like he always has the team will do the job. If he doesn't and these rumors of a cancerous presence are true then this could be a 3rd place squad. Crede- an enigma. He now knows that he must bring his game because Mr. Fields is not going wait forever. He was the guy to replace my favorite Sox player of all time but has not even come close to being as good as Robin was. Pitching Staff Buerhle solid, The Rock 16-18 wins, Contreras 15 game winner but also a 12 game loser, El Duque will win the same and if Garland does what he has done for his whole career which is win 12 games we will be right where we need to be. Sorry for the novel but I am so excited about the season I needed to share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?ac...431&qpid=621115 Thomas had an MVP-like season in 2000, & the team hit better on the road (BA wise) than it did on @ the Cell. I think the 95W had more to do with the offense than the defense that year. As odd as this sounds the best move KW's made in the past yr or so is getting back Carl Everett. We know what he can do when he's healthy at the Cell. We've seen he looks pretty healthy in ST. He'll get the job done at DH & when Thomas returns if Carl is hitting better than Dye he will get the nod in RF. So not only does he fit nicely to backup Thomas but even more so to backup Dye. They both are making about the same $'s this year so there's no reason to favor Dye over Carl if Dye's not producing. That's why I am very optimistic about 2005. DH: Everett + Thomas - major upgrade over DH in 2004. RF: Best of (Everett, Dye) - major upgrade over RF in 2004. C: AJP - major upgrade over C in 2004. SS: Uribe - upgrade over SS in 2004 2B: Iggy - even w 2B in 2004. 3B: Crede 05 has to be better than Crede 04. CF: ARow 05 w a new contract & more experience could be better than ARow 04. LF: Pods - what he lacks in hits & power he makes up for in SB's. We all know the rotation & pen have seen major upgrades so I can't see how any one can say KW has not done a reasonable job at upgrading this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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