southsider2k5 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(heirdog @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 03:02 AM) Roster spot = Young or Owens who are not on the 40 man. .340 hitter with speed or 30-30 man (granted its all at Bham) but would be nice in September. Young is going to the AZ fall league, so cross him off of the list as a call up for right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Sox Fan Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Wait, does this mean the Matt Smith era is over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 As much fun as it is to drink beer with Matt Smith, I'd rather drink with Jr. Griffey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 (edited) I wonder if the spot was opened up just in case it was needed. Could KW perhaps just be thinking Cincinnati ownership could cave on August 31 and so he wants to have that spot open at a moment's notice in the unlikely event KGJ is acquired? SFF Edited August 25, 2005 by SpringfieldFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 12:05 AM) I meant Jose Vizcaino. The point is that Chipper Jones, David Bell, Joe Crede, Mark Bellhorn... These aren't stellar defensive players, and Bellhorn isn't as bad defensively as some would think. You are lumping in Crede's defense with those hacks? Crede is a stellar defensive player and thats why he is in the lineup. In fact, his defense is one of the major parts of this first place team. There are other teams (red sox, yankees) who have absolutley no defense at times, but get by because of their high-priced sluggers. We dont have that luxury and therefor get by with our pitching and our defense. Put Bellhorn at 3B and there goes a major strength for the team. He doesnt fit on this roster IMO. There IS a reason that nobody else wants him FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 (edited) Why hasn't Frank been put on the 60day DL? Does it have something to do with playoff shares? Maybe that's why MLB has given the White Sox some latitude here. Out of respect for Frank. There's not even a slim chance he'll play again this year so it doesn't have the effect of giving the White Sox any competitive advantage. Edited August 25, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 07:51 AM) I wonder if the spot was opened up just in case it was needed. Could KW perhaps just be thinking Cincinnati ownership could cave on August 31 and so he wants to have that spot open at a moment's notice in the unlikely event KGJ is acquired? SFF I think you are thinking along the right lines. Let's be honest here, was Matt Smith really going to contribute to the 2005 White Sox? Was he even going to be a Sept. call-up? Doubtful. If an opportunity presents itself, the spot is already open. I don't think this necessarily means something is lined up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I apologize if somebody already posted this. I haven't made it throught the entire thread. Per the Sun-Times MAKING ROOM: The Sox outrighted Class AAA pitcher Matt Smith to Charlotte to reduce the 40-man roster to 39. The move gives the Sox the option of using a player not on the current 40-man roster to start a game in Tuesday's doubleheader at Texas, such as Class AA pitchers Nik Lubisich (8-4, 2.93 ERA) or Heath Phillips (9-5, 3.66). Both are left-handers, and the Rangers are loaded with left-handed hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(shakes @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) I apologize if somebody already posted this. I haven't made it throught the entire thread. Per the Sun-Times MAKING ROOM: The Sox outrighted Class AAA pitcher Matt Smith to Charlotte to reduce the 40-man roster to 39. The move gives the Sox the option of using a player not on the current 40-man roster to start a game in Tuesday's doubleheader at Texas, such as Class AA pitchers Nik Lubisich (8-4, 2.93 ERA) or Heath Phillips (9-5, 3.66). Both are left-handers, and the Rangers are loaded with left-handed hitters. ...and bingo was his name-o. The Rangers pwn McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 11:26 AM) ...and bingo was his name-o. The Rangers pwn McCarthy. eh, i dont know if I want one of those guys starting against the rangers either. This could be another Arnie Munoz experience in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceffa2000 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 11:06 AM) I think you are thinking along the right lines. Let's be honest here, was Matt Smith really going to contribute to the 2005 White Sox? Was he even going to be a Sept. call-up? Doubtful. If an opportunity presents itself, the spot is already open. I don't think this necessarily means something is lined up. btw, ranch tooth bugs the crap out of me. thought I'd get that off my chest. alright, let's continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 10:28 AM) eh, i dont know if I want one of those guys starting against the rangers either. This could be another Arnie Munoz experience in the making. Who's to say it won't be Munoz again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Timo has a good night & suddenly the team is considered with pitching again :rolly Bring up Owens. I think the Barons are in the playoffs so as soon as that's over with get that kid up here. If he doesn't nothing but PH & PR he still could be a difference maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 11:40 AM) Timo has a good night & suddenly the team is considered with pitching again :rolly Bring up Owens. I think the Barons are in the playoffs so as soon as that's over with get that kid up here. If he doesn't nothing but PH & PR he still could be a difference maker. His OBP and BA seem to indicate that he could contribute. I think they should have brought him up when PODS went down, but its obviously not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 11:31 AM) Who's to say it won't be Munoz again? Munoz is currently on the 40-man. So maybe dropping it to 39 just helps us weigh all of our options. Or helps us acquire Griffey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 No way in hell Lubisich would come up. He's just off the DL, working mostly out of the pen, and, according to BHAM, still has a great deal of pain some days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 So anything to make out of this 13 page thread? I just got my internet connection back so I just saw this...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) So anything to make out of this 13 page thread? I just got my internet connection back so I just saw this...... More Griffey speculation, but alas, more talking and no real info. Edited August 25, 2005 by knightni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) More Griffey speculation, but alas, more talking and no real info. Gotcha, that's pretty much what I figured..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred3535 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Sorry if someone already posted this theory, but Jamie Burke is not on the 40 man roster, and Ozzie has said he'd like a third catcher for September... that would be my best guess as to the reason for this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) You are lumping in Crede's defense with those hacks? Crede is a stellar defensive player and thats why he is in the lineup. In fact, his defense is one of the major parts of this first place team. There are other teams (red sox, yankees) who have absolutley no defense at times, but get by because of their high-priced sluggers. We dont have that luxury and therefor get by with our pitching and our defense. Put Bellhorn at 3B and there goes a major strength for the team. He doesnt fit on this roster IMO. There IS a reason that nobody else wants him FWIW. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those hacks you speak of are comparable to Crede by statistics. On a team that is defensively sound, yet cannot hit the ball, some measures need to be taken to fix the offense whether that be Bellhorn or someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) Those hacks you speak of are comparable to Crede by statistics. On a team that is defensively sound, yet cannot hit the ball, some measures need to be taken to fix the offense whether that be Bellhorn or someone else. They arent comparable to crede's defensive ability. And bellhorn is not your offensive savior. Thats why nobody wants him, because he isnt that damn good. On this team, with our budget and our focus, I would rather have dependable defense than mashers in my lineup. We had that the last few years, and it didnt work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISF Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Blum should be starting at 3B. I don't care how good Crede's defense is at 3B, you need to be able to get a hit once in a while to be a regular in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(ISF @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) Blum should be starting at 3B. I don't care how good Crede's defense is at 3B, you need to be able to get a hit once in a while to be a regular in this league. he is in a slump, thats for sure. But you have to admit. He is due, and I want him to be out there when he breaks out of it. Heres to hoping sept is one of Joe's "on" months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 08:55 PM) They arent comparable to crede's defensive ability. And bellhorn is not your offensive savior. Thats why nobody wants him, because he isnt that damn good. On this team, with our budget and our focus, I would rather have dependable defense than mashers in my lineup. We had that the last few years, and it didnt work. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They are comparable to Crede's defensive ability according to statistics whether you choose to believe it or not, and I never said Bellhorn was the offensive savior this team had to have. He's a quality on-base percentage guy on a team that has very few base runners and needs more. Joe Crede not a masher? He does nothing but get out and hit home runs? Maybe our definitions differ.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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