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Official NFL General Discussion Thread

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QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 06:23 PM)
I can't believe that. Where is the holding?

It was pretty damn obvious DJ held him right off the line all the way into the endzone.

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QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 06:24 PM)
It was pretty damn obvious DJ held him right off the line all the way into the endzone.

 

They said #25, I was looking for him.

 

Anyways Dallas winning 31-28. Just about over.

Bad snap costs the Chiefs.

Ouch.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 06:36 PM)
Ouch.

 

You're telling me. I'm about ready to throw up right now. They let the Cowboys right back in the game and controlled most of it. But the Cowboys deserve a lot of credit and won it.

Wow, Chiefs found a way to get into FG range and than miss a makeable kick.

 

That would have been awesome had they made it and sent it into over time.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 04:38 PM)
You're telling me. I'm about ready to throw up right now. They let the Cowboys right back in the game and controlled most of it. But the Cowboys deserve a lot of credit and won it.

This is what the Boys have found a way to do. They aren't a good team, but they are in a good position to make the playoffs. I'd love it if the Bears matched up with em.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 06:39 PM)
This is what the Boys have found a way to do.  They aren't a good team, but they are in a good position to make the playoffs.  I'd love it if the Bears matched up with em.

 

Yeah, he won't win flashy and lucky not to win ugly. But a win's a win. Both teams really needed it. Now KC probably has to win out to get into the playoffs.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 11:39 AM)
They aren't a good team

We'll see Jason, we'll see. :P

And here's a good post from a Cowboys Blog I saw;

 

The Cowboys earned us the right to play with seeding scenarios.

 

The 31-28 win over the Chiefs, coupled with Tampa’s victory over Carolina and Pittsburgh’s dominant win over the Bears has pushed the NFC elite into a giant blob. Seattle remains alone at 11-2, but then we see:

 

Giants, 9-4;

Bears, 9-4;

Bucs, 9-4;

Panthers, 9-4;

 

Cowboys, 8-5;

Vikings, 8-5.

 

If the Falcons defeats the Saints tomorrow, they will join the 8-5 club. Although a loss today would have damaged their playoff aspirations, the Cowboys can now think realistically about grabbing the second seed. This team, with all its warts and foibles, can still dream of a bye. That’s because the teams on this short list still have many games to play against each other. The press prematurely dubbed last week “separation Sunday.” Consider that Dallas could take a major step forward next week. Here’s how:

 

A. The Cowboys face the Redskins. It’s a road game and Dallas will have to stop Santana Moss, who terrorized them in week two. They will also face a much tougher defense than the Chiefs offer. But the Cowboys defenders have to think they’re getting an early vacation after surviving 60 minutes against Dick Vermeil’s offense. Whatever the matchups, you know the Cowboys have been itching for this rematch since September.

 

B. The Giants face the Chiefs. You think today’s game was a track meet, wait until these two get together. The Giants won today, but Eli Manning may be hitting a mini-slump. He threw three picks against the Eagles, giving him five against just one touchdown pass the last two weeks.

 

C. The Bucs travel to Foxboro to play the Patriots. The champs are wobbly, but they’re at home, in the cold, where the Bucs hate to play.

 

D. The Vikings host the Steelers. Pittsburgh ended the Bears eight game win streak today and made Chicago’s defense look ordinary. The Vikings have a win steak of their own, but no quality wins on their list. Pittsburgh could knock them off Dallas’ rear bumper, provided the Cowboys tend to their business.

 

E. Atlanta plays the Bears. This game will either knock Atlanta outside the playoff bubble or lengthen the Bears’ slide.

 

F. The Panthers visit the Saints. This looks like an easy win for the Panthers but remember, the Saints beat Carolina in week one. And know that the Panthers offense has averaged just 12.5 points a game the last month. It wouldn’t be that big of an upset.

 

Dallas currently holds the 6th NFC seed. A win over Washington and losses by teams ahead of them would leave Dallas in 6th place, unless the Panthers lose to New Orleans. The Cowboys would still lose a tie-breaker to the Giants even if the Chiefs defeated New York. Nevertheless, there is a decent chance the group at 9-4 could all fall back to Dallas.

 

The endings to the Cowboys’ games are bad enough. You’ll need a second can of antacid for the end of the season.

Nice writeup by Eric Neel in ESPN's Daily Quickie:

 

I appreciate my colleague Gene Wojciechowski's sentiment that the Colts should go for 16-0 (and, presumably, 19-0), but in focusing on the big story he's missing the big picture.

 

What happens when they go all-out for 16-0 and, along the way, a key player gets hurt in what essentially is garbage time and wrecks their chances to win the Super Bowl?

 

I'm with GM Bill Polian: "Priority No. 1 is be healthy going into the playoffs."

 

I appreciate the competitive instinct to want to win every game, but Herman Edwards had it wrong. You don't "play to win the game." Hello?! You play to win the championship.

 

My colleague Woj reflects the national fan's interest in the most compelling story possible: Hey, 19-0 would be the all-time greatest accomplishment in team sports. Everyone WANTS to see it.

 

But it's misguided as a goal. Immortality is a siren, even if it IS within sight. 19-0 is just the type of eye-OFF-the-ball thinking that leads to stumbling before they reach the real goal: A Super Bowl title.

 

And make no mistake: At this point, if the Colts don't win the Super Bowl -- whether they go 16-0, 15-1, 14-2 or 13-3 along the way -- they are utter failures

 

Woj says people don't remember individual year's Super Bowl champs? Give me a break. Know who people REALLY don't remember? A season's top contender that DOESN'T win the Super Bowl. Oh, wait: Except as chokers.

 

Colts fans from Indiana and across the country will remember a title, no matter how it happens; everyone else's interest is a distant second.

 

If 19-0 happens incidentally, that's great; I'm rooting for it as hard as the next person sick of the '72 Dolphins.

 

But let's hope the Colts don't lose the distinctive focus they need to be a champ, to try to be something that sportswriters and fans who really don't care about the team want it to be.

 

19-0 is a sideshow;

a ring is the real thing.

Looks like Mike Brown might be out for the year

s*** s*** s*** s*** s***

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 03:40 PM)
Looks like Mike Brown might be out for the year

s*** s*** s*** s*** s***

 

Are you f***in serious?

Tom Brady rocks. God I wish the Bears had him. Best QB in the NFL.

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Go Pats Go

 

I have a serious man crush on the way the Pats do things. I hope to hell they can get rolling and somehow shock Indy in the playoffs.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 01:55 PM)
Go Pats Go 

 

I have a serious man crush on the way the Pats do things.  I hope to hell they can get rolling and somehow shock Indy in the playoffs.

 

 

If they run into each other it's going to be at the RCA Dome and there's not much of a shot for anyone there.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 11:58 AM)
If they run into each other it's going to be at the RCA Dome and there's not much of a shot for anyone there.

Ya, than I'll be b****ing for my hatred of domes. I don't see a shot in hell for the Pats to do it, but somehow they are going to get into the playoffs this year and I will always root for the Pats as long as Brady is at the helm (my favorite non Bear).

 

Plus they have done a good job keeping Peyton and the Colts down for a few years. Hopefully they can do it again (and we all know my extreme hatred for the Colts).

OK Phil Simms, we know you played with the Giants and are still a fan of them. How about we give both teams compliments and both teams criticisms now.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 02:00 PM)
I will always root for the Pats as long as Brady is at the helm (my favorite non Bear). 

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