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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 14, 2007 -> 04:16 PM)
Olbermann is kind of ridiculously over the top, but, all Balta was doing here was providing the actual video instead of a commentary on it. I don't see how that is bad.

If he was providing the video, that's cool... but to defend this piece of s*** is totally another.

 

 

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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 14, 2007 -> 11:01 AM)
Considering how many details are left out of said article, including Olbermann's entire actual argument, I'll just link to the actual video they're trying to Bash Olbermann with, and let people decide on their own whether or not the points in that article are valid.

After watching the actual video I'm not sure what the hoopla is all about.

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I pretty much have an aversion to almost all the main media people. I really do... no matter what "side" you're on or party affiliation... because they are all hacks trying to tear down the other side. When I get on a Democrat rant, it's because I read their quotes and simply think, WTF - and most of the time, they are piling on pieces of hyperbolic bulls*** that sounds good (it's called politics). I also think that the Re-pube-licans do the same thing, but it's not as direct, it's more veiled, which is probably more dangerous in a way.

 

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Kap,

 

Good or bad, a free press is much better for us then dismissing everything that is said, which is what I believe the GOP party wants. If it is negative, it's a media bias against us, it can't actually be true. Yes, there are hacks on both sides, but the vast majority of stuff is pretty well balanced over time.

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QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 14, 2007 -> 06:51 PM)
Kap,

 

Good or bad, a free press is much better for us then dismissing everything that is said, which is what I believe the GOP party wants. If it is negative, it's a media bias against us, it can't actually be true. Yes, there are hacks on both sides, but the vast majority of stuff is pretty well balanced over time.

Not as much as it used to be...

 

Now, it's either one way or the other. How DARE anyone have independent thought? You have to be aligned with the far right or left, depending on your views, or you're totally out of touch with your party. And the thing is, that's really true now.

 

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...0914?hub=Health

 

Stronach went to U.S. for cancer treatment: report

Updated Fri. Sep. 14 2007 7:57 AM ET

 

CTV.ca News Staff

 

Liberal MP Belinda Stronach, who is battling breast cancer, travelled to California last June for an operation that was recommended as part of her treatment, says a report.

 

Stronach's spokesman, Greg MacEachern, told the Toronto Star that the MP for Newmarket-Aurora had a "later-stage" operation in the U.S. after a Toronto doctor referred her.

 

"Belinda had one of her later-stage operations in California, after referral from her personal physicians in Toronto. Prior to this, Belinda had surgery and treatment in Toronto, and continues to receive follow-up treatment there," said MacEachern.

 

He said speed was not the reason why she went to California.

 

Instead, MacEachern said the decision was made because the U.S. hospital was the best place to have it done due to the type of surgery required.

 

Stronach was diagnosed last spring with ductal carcinoma in situ (DCIS). The cancer is one of the more treatable forms but Stronach still required a mastectomy -- which was done in Toronto -- and breast reconstruction.

 

Stronach, who announced last April she would be leaving politics before the next election, paid for the surgery in the U.S., reports the Star.

 

"As we said back in June when we confirmed the surgery, this is a personal and private matter between Belinda, her family and her physicians. I think you'll understand that because of respect for Belinda's privacy, we refrained from offering specific details around her medical treatment," said MacEachern.

 

While it is rare for MPs to seek treatment outside Canada, MacEachern said Stronach was not lacking confidence in the system.

 

"In fact, Belinda thinks very highly of the Canadian health-care system, and uses it when needed for herself and her children, as do all Canadians. As well, her family has clearly demonstrated that support," MacEachern told the Star.

 

MacEachern did not offer any other details regarding what type of surgery Stronach had or what she paid for it.

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'Culture of Corruption' still alive and kicking under our Democrat overlords. Maybe he is trying to match Hillary?

 

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_29/vested/20056-1.html

 

Every private entity that Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) favored with an earmark in this year’s defense bill recently has given political money to the lawmaker, according to an analysis of House Appropriations and federal elections records by Roll Call and Taxpayers for Common Sense.

 

PACs and employees of those 26 groups together have contributed $413,250 to Murtha since the beginning of 2005. He collected nearly a quarter of the sum — $100,750 — in the two weeks leading up to March 16, the original deadline for lawmakers to file their earmark requests.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/5992.html

 

Clinton campaign kills negative story

 

By: Ben Smith

Sep 24, 2007 03:43 PM EST

Updated: September 24, 2007 09:39 PM EST

 

 

 

Clintons’ press aides have leverage like Hollywood publicists — less Mitt Romney and more Tom Cruise.

Photo: Composite image by Politico.com

 

 

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Early this summer, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign for president learned that the men’s magazine GQ was working on a story the campaign was sure to hate: an account of infighting in Hillaryland.

 

So Clinton’s aides pulled a page from the book of Hollywood publicists and offered GQ a stark choice: Kill the piece, or lose access to planned celebrity coverboy Bill Clinton.

 

Despite internal protests, GQ editor Jim Nelson met the Clinton campaign’s demands, which had been delivered by Bill Clinton’s spokesman, Jay Carson, several sources familiar with the conversations said.

 

GQ writer George Saunders traveled with Clinton to Africa in July, and Clinton is slated to appear on the cover of GQ’s December issue, in which it traditionally names a “Man of the Year,” according magazine industry sources.

 

And the offending article by Atlantic Monthly staff writer Josh Green got the spike.

 

“I don’t really get into the inner workings of the magazine, but I can tell you that yes, we did kill a Hillary piece. We kill pieces all the time for a variety of reasons,” Nelson said in an e-mail to Politico.

 

He did not respond to follow-up questions. A Clinton campaign spokesman declined to comment.

 

The campaign’s transaction with GQ opens a curtain on the Clinton campaign’s hard-nosed media strategy, which is far closer in its unromantic view of the press to the campaigns of George W. Bush than to that of Bill Clinton’s free-wheeling 1992 campaign.

 

There’s little left to chance. Hillary Clinton may have an unparalleled campaign “war room” — but there aren’t any documentary film-makers wandering around this one, and lovers of the D.A. Pennebaker film “The War Room” can rest assured they aren’t getting a sequel.

 

 

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The spiked GQ story also shows how the Clinton campaign has been able to use its access to the most important commodity in media — celebrity, and in fact two bona fide celebrities — to shape not just what gets written about the candidate, but also what doesn’t.

 

There’s nothing unusual about providing extra access to candidates to reporters seen as sympathetic, and cutting off those seen as hostile to a campaign.

 

The 2004 Bush campaign banned a New York Times reporter from Vice President Dick Cheney’s jet, and Sen. Barack Obama threatened to bar Fox News reporters from campaign travel.

 

But a retreat of the sort GQ is alleged to have made is unusual, particularly as part of what sources described as a barely veiled transaction of editorial leverage for access.

 

The Clinton campaign is unique in its ability to provide cash value to the media, and particularly the celebrity-driven precincts of television and magazines. Bill Clinton is a favorite cover figure, because his face is viewed within the magazine industry as one that can move product. (Indeed, Green’s own magazine, The Atlantic Monthly, ran as its October cover story “Bill Clinton’s campaign to save the world.”)

 

It’s a fact that gives the Clintons’ press aides a leverage more familiar to Hollywood publicists than even to her political rivals — less Mitt Romney and more Tom Cruise, whose publicists once required interviewers to sign a statement pledging not to write anything “derogatory” about the star.

 

The Clinton campaign has more sway with television networks than any rival. At the time Clinton launched her campaign, the networks’ hunger for interviews had her all over the morning and evening news broadcasts of every network — after her aides negotiated agreements limiting producers’ abilities to edit the interviews.

 

This past weekend, she pulled off another rare feat — sitting for interviews with all the major Sunday talk shows. In most cases, the Sunday shows will reject guests who have appeared on competing shows.

 

Clinton’s team is also unusually aggressive in moving to smother potentially damaging storylines, as last spring when Wolfson and other aides took aim at an unflattering book by writers Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta Jr.

 

GQ describes itself as “the definitive guide to fashion and grooming,” but also has a history of carrying groundbreaking reporting and long-form writing.

 

This presidential cycle, it has commissioned pieces from well-regarded Washington magazine writers on the presidential candidates, including a piece by Ryan Lizza, now of the New Yorker, on Barack Obama.

 

Green was not a particular favorite of the Clinton campaign, however. He took the assignment from GQ not long after finishing an unflattering 13,000-word profile in the November 2006 Atlantic Monthly, which concluded that the junior Senator from New York is, more or less, a timid, calculating pol.

 

“Today Clinton offers no big ideas, no crusading causes — by her own tacit admission, no evidence of bravery in the service of a larger ideal. Instead, her Senate record is an assemblage of many, many small gains.

 

Her real accomplishment in the Senate has been to rehabilitate the image and political career of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Impressive though that has been in its particulars, it makes for a rather thin claim on the presidency. Senator Clinton has plenty to talk about, but she doesn’t have much to say,” he wrote.

 

The next spring, according to people with the story and sources Green spoke to, he spent digging into the tensions within Hillary Clinton’s campaign — widely speculated about among reporters, but at the same time notoriously difficult to report from a political circle known for keeping internal disputes inside the family.

 

 

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In particular, a source familiar with Green’s story said, he had focused on internal criticism of the campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle.

 

Green had also asked questions about the pay package of the campaign’s communications director, Howard Wolfson, who is technically a consultant and left a lucrative communications practice in New York City to take the job, and whose compensation is the subject of speculation within the campaign. (Speculation about Wolfson’s compensation, sources said, was not in Green’s final GQ draft.)

 

Green approached the Clinton campaign to discuss the details of the story, which he described to Wolfson over dinner at a downtown Washington, D.C. restaurant, a source familiar with the conversations said.

 

Soon after that, Carson, who is now Hillary Clinton’s traveling press secretary, told GQ that the former president would not cooperate with Saunders’ planned profile if Green’s piece ran.

 

Green declined to comment on the fate of his story, referring questions to GQ and to Carson. Carson declined to comment on his discussions with GQ.

 

Green and GQ’s features editor, Joel Lovell, argued for rebuffing the Clinton campaigns demands, sources said, but Nelson made the final call to kill the story.

 

Saunders, the Syracuse novelist who is writing the Clinton story for GQ, declined to discuss his story, citing GQ policy.

 

He told the Syracuse Post-Standard in July that he was planning to travel with the former president to tour Clinton Foundation projects in Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi and South Africa and said he’d voted for Bill Clinton twice.

 

“It seems like [Clinton’s] gift, one of his gifts, is everybody likes him and knows him, so he can get people in a room and make things happen,” Saunders told the Syracuse paper. “I just like the idea that at this elderly stage of life, you can go and get your doors blown off.”

 

Asked by Politico if he was interested in hearing how his access to Clinton was procured, he demurred.

 

“I don’t think I want to know,” he said.

 

 

 

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QUOTE(mr_genius @ Sep 29, 2007 -> 01:47 AM)
This is such a bad idea

 

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1

 

So, Hillary's main campaign strategy: offer everyone free money, health care, housing, and anything else they might need. Sounds like when Homer Simpson ran for garbage commissioner.

She just needs to come out of the closet and say that she is 100% for the redistrubution of wealth from "rich" to poor and that she is a socialist commie. That's about where she is, without saying it.

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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 28, 2007 -> 09:49 PM)
She just needs to come out of the closet and say that she is 100% for the redistrubution of wealth from "rich" to poor and that she is a socialist commie. That's about where she is, without saying it.

 

Except she's not. You can think that, but the Clinton administration in the 90s was all about protecting money. And with many of the same people back in power under a Hillary administration, you can bet the same thing will happen again.

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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 28, 2007 -> 08:49 PM)
She just needs to come out of the closet and say that she is 100% for the redistrubution of wealth from "rich" to poor and that she is a socialist commie. That's about where she is, without saying it.

Whatcha trying to catch with that bait?

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Federal Income Tax rates for a single person during B.Clinton presidency

15% for salary up to $25,000

28% for salary up to $61,400

31% for salary up to $128,100

36% for salary up to $278,400

39.6% for salary up to more than $278,400

 

 

What they are now

10% up to $7,825

15% up to $31,850

25% up to $77,100

28% up to $160,850

33% up to $349,700

35% over $349,700

 

When they clam that there were only "Tax cuts for the wealthy" they are basically claiming someone making less $25,000 is "wealthy". Dems will raise everyone's taxes by large margins if they are going to revert to the B.Clinton tax plan. But it's not a tax increase, it's just a rate adjustment according to Charlie Rangel. lol

 

Oh, and those Tax rates were without universal government funded health care and the free $5,000 given to each new kid being born or whatever else H.Clinton comes up with to get people to vote for her. Tax rates could balloon well past the levels during the B.Clinton admin.

 

B.Clinton also holds a lot of responsible for NAFTA, so I don't see why all these unions are so "pro-Clinton". NAFTA kinda screwed them.

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QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Sep 29, 2007 -> 03:42 AM)
Except she's not. You can think that, but the Clinton administration in the 90s was all about protecting money. And with many of the same people back in power under a Hillary administration, you can bet the same thing will happen again.

Oh, I think it's way different this time around. Mr. Clinton was all about getting Mrs. Clinton elected. They knew then, what they know now. :lol:

 

This time, they will raise taxes and redistribute wealth - that's all the healthcare plan is about.

 

Of course, McGovern tried to do the same thing in 1972. We all see how that worked.

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On one hand, they want people to see what Islam is about. So you can learn about other cultures.

 

 

Unless it has anything to do with Christianity. Then they need to eliminate all traces of it.

 

 

 

 

Jello = Evil

Santa = Red Devil Jesus lover

Halloween = calling card of christ.

 

 

I expect all public schools in that district to adopt meatless Fridays and fish fry's during lent. Maybe they can also adopt kosher meals as well. Or they could pack their own kids lunch and shut the f*** up. The funny thing is that Santa Claus and Halloween are based on other items outside of Christianity. Halloween is based on the the Celtic Feast of Samhain, and a bunch of the Santa Claus traditions are based off of the Germanic version of Odin who is hardly Christian.

 

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