May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 8, 2006 -> 08:18 PM) Haha so after all this, it's not even a sure thing that Haegar will get the call, or that Count will go on the DL, or that Count will even miss a start. And worse case senario is he goes on the DL and misses 2 starts. Wonderful, I love the internet and talk radio, just a BIT too over reactive. The way I read the Tribune article, it looks pretty certain he will miss his next start, but it's uncertain whether he goes on the DL or not. If he does, it'll probably be Haeger starting. If he doesn't go on the DL, they'll probably try to start McCarthy Wednesday and have Jose back for his next start. Best case scenario, he feels 100% tomorrow and starts Wednesday, but that seems unlikely. Edited May 9, 200619 yr by South Side Fireworks Man
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 8, 2006 -> 05:29 PM) I think part of this is wanting to be over cautious with Count (and get him some rest in the process) and another part of it is they want to give Haeger a couple shots with the big club and see how he does, since again we have that luxury right now. I'm not questioning your site or article (which are both good), just saying it's funny how much in a period of several hours a story can twist and turn in this age of the media. Don't worry, my feelings won't get hurt either way. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong in the future and I could very well be wrong now.
May 9, 200619 yr If Jose, doesn't go on the DL, who would go down so Haeger could make the extra start? It wouldn't be that big of a deal to send Logan down. One question, when we send Logan down, how long does he have to be down before we can recall him?
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 8, 2006 -> 08:33 PM) If Jose, doesn't go on the DL, who would go down so Haeger could make the extra start? It wouldn't be that big of a deal to send Logan down. One question, when we send Logan down, how long does he have to be down before we can recall him? Good question on both counts, which is why I think we will either do the DL thing and have him miss 2 starts, or have him start as scheduled Wednesday. I doubt there is an in between, since if he misses a start, we might as well just put him on the DL and use our luxury of a team to give him the extra start worth of time of rest.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 8, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) BTW, Haeger couldn't ask for better conditions here. He's facing an Anahiem lineup which currently ranks 12th in the AL in runs scored. He's also pitching at home, which could work both ways -- I list it as a positive because he'll have 25K behind him, rather than in a tough environment on the road. (Get well soon, Conde!) Not to mention the Angels are last in baseball in walks which should be very nice for a knuckleballer.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 8, 2006 -> 08:04 PM) Exactly what I was thinking, especially since Rotoworld is now saying we reported he had a MRI. Hopefully that is confirmed. The Score reported he had an MRI.
May 9, 200619 yr If Contreras misses a start, I could see using Mc Carthy to start in place of Jose instead of bringing a guy up from Charlotte.
May 9, 200619 yr Now MLB has it too: MLB Com That whoosing sound you hear is the sigh of releif coming from FutureSox.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(whitesox1976 @ May 8, 2006 -> 05:43 PM) If Contreras misses a start, I could see using Mc Carthy to start in place of Jose instead of bringing a guy up from Charlotte. The hard part of that is that Brandon made 2 appearances (Sat and Sunday) and we may be pushing him too soon. I think the last thing Ozzie wants to do (and I realize this is being extremely careful) is to either rush Brandon (and have a guy who is going to be counted upon heavily in our pen) or rush Jose (a guy that is being looked upon to be an ace). If Jose is 100% tomorrow, he pitches (I'm talking in terms of his back), anything less and I think the Sox just let him miss two starts and be extra careful.
May 9, 200619 yr Ha holy f***, and you guys were all giving him s*** before I left. I'm not even going to try to read this thread. But this is great proof that people shouldn't start s*** just to start s***. I hope the ones that started talking in the beginning of this thread apologized. The mods/admins at SoxTalk will take care of it, if there is a problem or a farce. There's absolutely no reason to quick judge, ever.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(TLAK @ May 8, 2006 -> 05:44 PM) Now MLB has it too: MLB Com That whoosing sound you hear is the sigh of releif coming from FutureSox.
May 9, 200619 yr Personally, I think the Sox know that Contreras won't be starting on Wednesday, but they're going to wait until either tomorrow night or Wednesday afternoon to report that the knuckler will get the start. A lot of teams might wait an extra day in order to not make the rookie pitcher have to worry about his start for 2 full days. Rather, he'll get the call tomorrow night, and before he knows it, he'll be on the mound on Wednesday.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 9, 2006 -> 01:44 AM) The hard part of that is that Brandon made 2 appearances (Sat and Sunday) and we may be pushing him too soon. I think the last thing Ozzie wants to do (and I realize this is being extremely careful) is to either rush Brandon (and have a guy who is going to be counted upon heavily in our pen) or rush Jose (a guy that is being looked upon to be an ace). If Jose is 100% tomorrow, he pitches (I'm talking in terms of his back), anything less and I think the Sox just let him miss two starts and be extra careful. There's no chance McCarthy will start tomorrow. He even stated in the paper that his arm didn't feel great yesterday after the back-to-back performances.
May 9, 200619 yr There is no reason for the Sox to tip their hand this far in advance, they probably have a damn good idea of what's going to happen. But they have no reason to let the Angels prepare for a knuckle baller.
May 9, 200619 yr If Jose is 100% tomorrow, he pitches (I'm talking in terms of his back), anything less and I think the Sox just let him miss two starts and be extra careful. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think this nails it and I also believe the White Sox will be extra careful with Contreras. He is very tough and well conditioned, there is obviously something wrong with him if the discussions have gotten to DL consideration. BTW Jason, congrats, you scooped this as much or more than the poster commenting on Charlie Haeger. Great job.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 8, 2006 -> 06:29 PM) All I wanted throughout the entire thread was for wcw to say something along the lines of "Hey, i wish I could tell you guys my source, but as of right now, I cannot". I checked back, and I just kept asking him for some sort of confirmation and I was met with "You guys are all just dissing Haeger", which I was not, and did not throughout the entire thread. I really dont feel the need to apologize because backing up facts on this website is pretty important to your credibility. Yeah, I ran with the /green thread titles for a little while, but it was all in fun. I never called the guy a liar or anything like that. who cares anyway, its not like im trying to date his daughter. Act like a douche, get treated like one.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(fathom @ May 8, 2006 -> 05:47 PM) There's no chance McCarthy will start tomorrow. He even stated in the paper that his arm didn't feel great yesterday after the back-to-back performances. Ya, I know that. I was just responding to Ozzie's quote. I think that Ozzie's quote is a case of trying to keep the Angels off guard. The odds favor the fact that Haeger will be up, but that doesn't mean nothing will happen. I think Coop's quotes say it best and barring really positive news, they will hold him out of the next 2 starts.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(JimH @ May 9, 2006 -> 01:49 AM) I think this nails it and I also believe the White Sox will be extra careful with Contreras. He is very tough and well conditioned, there is obviously something wrong with him if the discussions have gotten to DL consideration. We're talking about a big man who's 75 years old. I agree that it has to be of some concern to the organization for them to consider the DL right away.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 8, 2006 -> 08:44 PM) The hard part of that is that Brandon made 2 appearances (Sat and Sunday) and we may be pushing him too soon. I think the last thing Ozzie wants to do (and I realize this is being extremely careful) is to either rush Brandon (and have a guy who is going to be counted upon heavily in our pen) or rush Jose (a guy that is being looked upon to be an ace). If Jose is 100% tomorrow, he pitches (I'm talking in terms of his back), anything less and I think the Sox just let him miss two starts and be extra careful. That's how I see it too.
May 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ May 8, 2006 -> 05:50 PM) The official site says it's a hip problem, true? The problem is with his back and a lot of times if you have a pinched nerve or something along those lines (and I don't know what his back problem is) it can also effect your hip. But the article I read on the official site mentioned both.
May 9, 200619 yr Personally, I think the Sox know that Contreras won't be starting on Wednesday, but they're going to wait until either tomorrow night or Wednesday afternoon to report that the knuckler will get the start. A lot of teams might wait an extra day in order to not make the rookie pitcher have to worry about his start for 2 full days. Rather, he'll get the call tomorrow night, and before he knows it, he'll be on the mound on Wednesday. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly, no reason to make an announcement now, even if they knew 100% what they are gonna do. I may ask you to explain this to quickman via IM he is in Seattle at the Mariner game and has been blowing s*** my way for the better part of two hours because he hasn't heard it streaming on the Score or seen it confirmed online.
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