June 6, 200619 yr I for certain would be pissed because this guy is a good lefty with excellent stuff. I'd like to see what he has in the majors before he gets shipped out. I don't know if he will ever get there in our organization though, because of our surplus of starting pitching. Thoughts?
June 6, 200619 yr Depends on who we get... If it is a middle reliever that isn't someone like Scot Shields, yes. If we get a legit CF or good pitching/hitting, it'll be OK with me.
June 6, 200619 yr QUOTE(southsida86 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 11:10 AM) I for certain would be pissed because this guy is a good lefty with excellent stuff. I'd like to see what he has in the majors before he gets shipped out. I don't know if he will ever get there in our organization though, because of our surplus of starting pitching. Thoughts? Since this is hypothetical, yes, I would be very pissed. Lumsden may be the only starting pitching prospect capable of contributing within the next several years. I'd like to have SOME leverage when our current starting rotation approaches the end of their deals. It'd be especially beneficial in situations where we're not going to have to worry about outbidding teams for starters on the market because an ingrown, cheap, left-handed power pitcher is ready to be promoted. We can only hope he continues pitching well.
June 6, 200619 yr Right now, if KW thinks it'll make this team better, and it doesn't create a gigantic hole the next year, I could care less who KW trades if he gets someone he likes.
June 6, 200619 yr I would be pissed if we traded Tyler. Out of the guys we have, he has got the best make-up. I would rather trade Haeger, Liotta and Broadway (especially now with McCulloch on board.) Lumsden is a true power pitcher who if not a starter can be a solid reliever. Mid 90's fastball, dynamic slider. From a lefty that is hard to get.
June 7, 200619 yr Prospects. We don't have the luxury of waiting on prospects to see if they ever work out. If we need to move 'em to improve the ML club, so be it. Edited June 7, 200619 yr by YASNY
June 7, 200619 yr Win now, worry later. They call them prospects for a reason, the reason being they MIGHT be good. I'll take a guy that I know is good over that anyday of the week.
June 7, 200619 yr I was sad to see Gio Gonzalez and Chris Young go... and after that I decided not to attach myself to our prospects sooo much. So no I wouldnt be pissed if we lost Lumsden... unless we got only trash in return.
June 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(knightni @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 12:58 PM) Lumsden, Tracey and Owens for Brady Clark and Matt Wise...? I'd do that.
June 9, 200619 yr Lumsden's the 1 SP prospect I DON'T want to trade. Get rid of Liotta, Broadway or Haegar first. Lumsden's got the best stuff out of all of our prospects probably.
June 9, 200619 yr The sox don't have a lefty power pitcher who can start. Lumsden is getting too close to contribute in Chicago [even in the bullpen by the end of the yr] to trade. Esp. with other SP's like Haeger and Liotta who could be dealt
June 9, 200619 yr how fast is Lumsden's fastball... I know ive heard a lot about him and everything but he was always hurt b4 and in spring training I dont remember it being that fast.
June 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 09:26 PM) how fast is Lumsden's fastball... I know ive heard a lot about him and everything but he was always hurt b4 and in spring training I dont remember it being that fast. Around about 94-95 MPH IIRC.
June 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 09:38 AM) Around about 94-95 MPH IIRC. In the spring training game I witnessed, he consistently pitched around 94-95. It appeared reliable. I believe in another appearance Lumsden was sitting around 91-92, but I didn't watch enough of the game to determine whether the radar gun may have been off. He definitely has a live arm and a relatively effortless delivery. Even with past arm troubles -- which I suppose someone could argue proves his delivery isn't very fluid -- he's probably the best we have in the minors.
June 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 01:56 PM) In the spring training game I witnessed, he consistently pitched around 94-95. It appeared reliable. I believe in another appearance Lumsden was sitting around 91-92, but I didn't watch enough of the game to determine whether the radar gun may have been off. He definitely has a live arm and a relatively effortless delivery. Even with past arm troubles -- which I suppose someone could argue proves his delivery isn't very fluid -- he's probably the best we have in the minors. HE's very very talented with great mound presence (a confident pitcher who doesn't back down). His arm during spring was more in the low 90's but he was still getting back to 100% and still pitched good. Flashed a real nice slider but still isn't consistent with it and I think the Sox have been working on a change and possible a bit of a curve with him (not 100% on that though). He throws a cutter or two seamer as well and gets good movement on his pitches and throws in the 91-93 range but can reach back and fire a few 94-95 and if he were pitching out of the pen I think he'd be 94-95 on a consistent basis.
June 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(knightni @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 02:58 PM) Lumsden, Tracey and Owens for Brady Clark and Matt Wise...? We would be getting robbed on that deal.
June 9, 200619 yr QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 02:56 PM) We would be getting robbed on that deal. If Owens was hitting this year, I'd agree.
June 11, 200619 yr dont you guys realize we cant trade out prospects? the charlotte knights need to win the IL championship!
June 11, 200619 yr QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 11:13 PM) dont you guys realize we cant trade out prospects? the charlotte knights need to win the IL championship! Lumpy is in AA.
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