I think that by now, we are seeing why this guy has bounced around the majors. The guy has all the talent in the world, but apparently has neither the intelligence or the stones to go along with it. It is maddening to witness the amount of two out two strike runs this guys gives up. Contrast that with Freddy Garcia who manages to find ways to win, even without his best stuff.

 

Frankly, I hope that he can get his win total up so that we can cut our losses on him at season's end.

Quite frankly I hope he is the one dealt at the end of the year.

 

Can the guy actually throw a gem against a team not named Kansas City?

 

We may end up regret dealing a possible stud like Young for a guy who won't even sniff a playoff start.

Frankly, I hope that he can get his win total up so that we can cut our losses on him at season's end.

 

I sure hope we don't wait until the end of the season to dump this mope. Hopefully some team desperate for starting pitching can be fooled by his fabulous stuff and decent record into giving us something more than a bag of balls for him. I don't even want him as long relief. I'll take El Duke' over this guy any time.

Frankly, I hope that he can get his win total up so that we can cut our losses on him at season's end.

I sure hope we don't wait until the end of the season to dump this mope. Hopefully some team desperate for starting pitching can be fooled by his fabulous stuff and decent record into giving us something more than a bag of balls for him. I don't even want him as long relief. I'll take El Duke' over this guy any time.

 

 

You cannot be serious.

You cannot be serious.

I will go on the record in his defense and say that what El Duque did against Boston last year will be more significant than anything Vazquez EVER does in a Sox uniform.

 

But otherwise, I'd rather have neither of them at this point.

Going out on a limb, eh?

You cannot be serious.

 

Well, not entirely, but I really can't stand Vazquez. This guy is a pitch away from disaster in almost every inning he pitches. He seems to have #1 stuff and #6 performance. It seems like his trade value would be very high right now and I'd feel more confident with Brandon out there.

He's a weak minded (insert venomous term here) and is a pain to watch. We are going to lose some games, and eventually so is Detroit, but Vasquez and his lack of balls is really sad to watch. What a wate of talent he looks like on the mound.

Vazquez has been our best pitcher against the Indians so far. He's just not fooling a lot of batters right now, and his WHIP/ERA is flying up.

Man, the rotation is gonna look way different next year without Garcia, Garland and Vazquez.

Man, the rotation is gonna look way different next year without Garcia, Garland and Vazquez.

 

It's going to be Contreras, Buehrle, McCarthy, Broadway, and McCullough. My buddy flash might not be able to watch any game not started by Contreras.

Man, the rotation is gonna look way different next year without Garcia, Garland and Vazquez.

 

is that supposed to be green or what......

Vazquez has been our best pitcher against the Indians so far. He's just not fooling a lot of batters right now, and his WHIP/ERA is flying up.

 

wrong,

 

he is fooling hitters. he's just making stupid decisions (along with AJ, tonight) such as throwing a fastball on an 0-2 count with 2 outs...

 

he just doesn't have it, plain and simple. now, remember, jose contreras did not get his act together until being with the sox for a full year.

 

give him time, he's way more valuable than luis vizquaino and el duque

While his K rate has been good, look at his homer rate. THe last two years he gives up around 33 homers per 200 innings. He has given up 9 in 95 in a hitters league in a hitters park. That means that you could argue that he's been better than he's going to be with the gopherball. You just don't know day2day what you will get out of Javy Vazquez. Let's give Cooper a few more months with him though

wrong,

 

he is fooling hitters. he's just making stupid decisions (along with AJ, tonight) such as throwing a fastball on an 0-2 count with 2 outs...

 

he just doesn't have it, plain and simple. now, remember, jose contreras did not get his act together until being with the sox for a full year.

 

give him time, he's way more valuable than luis vizquaino and el duque

 

 

 

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DING!!!!!

I think that by now, we are seeing why this guy has bounced around the majors. The guy has all the talent in the world, but apparently has neither the intelligence or the stones to go along with it. It is maddening to witness the amount of two out two strike runs this guys gives up. Contrast that with Freddy Garcia who manages to find ways to win, even without his best stuff.

 

Frankly, I hope that he can get his win total up so that we can cut our losses on him at season's end.

 

He should be gone by the trade deadline.

I never cared much for Vazquez from the start. I would trade him, but I doubt if KW will trade a starting pitcher.

Man, the rotation is gonna look way different next year without Garcia, Garland and Vazquez.

You rock.

wrong,

 

he is fooling hitters. he's just making stupid decisions (along with AJ, tonight) such as throwing a fastball on an 0-2 count with 2 outs...

 

he just doesn't have it, plain and simple. now, remember, jose contreras did not get his act together until being with the sox for a full year.

 

give him time, he's way more valuable than luis vizquaino and el duque

 

All you have to do is look at his WHIP for the last month or so. It's above 2.0. For someone with his stuff, that means he's not fooling a lot of hitters. His inability to avoid the big inning is still hurting him this year, and it's been his downfall in years past.

All you have to do is look at his WHIP for the last month or so. It's above 2.0. For someone with his stuff, that means he's not fooling a lot of hitters. His inability to avoid the big inning is still hurting him this year, and it's been his downfall in years past.

He CAN fool hitters but his problem is that he's a mental midget. If he makes one bad pitch or gets one bad call from the ump he completely loses it and that's that.

He doesn't seem to have much composure on the mound...I've seen it now in a few other starts where things are going ok for him for a few innings, one bad pitch, and he just falls apart mentally on the mound...

I will go on the record in his defense and say that what El Duque did against Boston last year will be more significant than anything Vazquez EVER does in a Sox uniform.

 

But otherwise, I'd rather have neither of them at this point.

So was Geoff Blum's HR. Would you rather have him too?

Man, the rotation is gonna look way different next year without Garcia, Garland and Vazquez.

 

 

Great point, but it might not be a long-term situation. The performances of Garcia, Garland and Vazquez have one wondering what their roles with the Sox will be this season.

 

D-Train plz.

It's really starting to bother me that we're going into July with 3 guys from what we thought would be the best rotation in baseball sporting earned run averages right at or above 5.

Great point, but it might not be a long-term situation. The performances of Garcia, Garland and Vazquez have one wondering what their roles with the Sox will be this season.

 

D-Train plz.

That'd be fun the first time around the league, after that, I sure hope you like the way Garland pitches now because that's the type of results you'll be getting.