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Garcia to Philly for Gavin Floyd and Gio Gonzalez

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If Rowand is indeed coming back, something tells me BA will be moved sometime soon.

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I think Tom Doer was wrong...no Rowand.

so we got rowand back....i know he isnt the best, but he is our new CF, welcome back arow

What the f*** is the point of trading for guys that we already had?

 

KW was supposed to rape some team this year, not bring back former players.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:42 PM)
Pelfrey was never on the table.

I wasnt crazy about millege anyway.

No shock...rotoworld hates the trade.

 

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 03:43 AM)
I wasnt crazy about millege anyway.

 

I'd take him over the two guys we got in a heartbeat.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:42 PM)
I think Tom Doer was wrong...no Rowand.

 

Tom Dore is NEVER wrong!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:43 PM)
What the f*** is the point of trading for guys that we already had?

 

KW was supposed to rape some team this year, not bring back former players.

Well, he just got two solid trading chips in young pitching and saved 10 million bucks. I think that he has something else cooked up.

Wait so is Rowand involved or what?

If Rowand isn't involved, I don't like the deal. If he is, I like the deal. ESPN said nothing about Rowand. THing that makes no sense is that was one of the guys we wanted all along? I didnt think we were dumping a SP just to dump him. Im confused.

Where did this talk about getting Rowand start?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 03:43 AM)
What the f*** is the point of trading for guys that we already had?

 

KW was supposed to rape some team this year, not bring back former players.

 

I can't wait until we bring back Sandy this week.

Rotoworld says it best: but Floyd doesn't have a lot of value at the moment and we're stunned that this is the best the White Sox could do for Garcia.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 10:42 PM)
Pelfrey was never on the table.

But weren't we just about to get him along with Humber and Milledge? Or at least Heilman and Milledge? That deal just sounded so thoroughly thought-out...

whitesox.com jhjust says floyd and playet to be names later for garcia.....we need some more clarification

How does a .262 average in 2006 and a career .279 hitter make this trade go from crap to , "I'm really liking it"?

Background: As a freshman on Mount St. Joseph High’s junior-varsity team, Floyd watched his older brother Mike and Mark Teixeira, both seniors, play for the varsity. Three years later, Gavin and Teixeira were selected with the fourth and fifth overall picks in the 2001 draft, with Philadelphia also taking Mike in the 22nd round. The Floyd brothers were on the South Carolina campus ready to attend class before both agreed to last-minute deals with the Phillies, with Gavin receiving a club-record $4.2 million bonus. He made a strong pro debut in 2002, ranking among the low Class A South Atlantic League leaders in several categories. Managers rated him the league’s top prospect. The Phillies handled Floyd cautiously, starting his pitch count at 70 and stretching it to 100 as he gained strength and durability.

 

Strengths: Floyd came to the Phillies with two plus pitches: his fastball and hard, sharp curveball. He throws the fastball 89-92 mph, peaking at 94-95 mph, with rapid arm action and a smooth delivery, and he used it almost exclusively to no-hit Lexington on July 24. Nevertheless, his knee-buckling curve is his best pitch because it can be unhittable at times. The organization asked Floyd to lay off his curve last season, urging him to develop the changeup that he never needed in high school. He has a nice feel for it now, and it could become a third plus offering. While Floyd’s stuff compares favorably to that of Brett Myers, he has a more laid-back personality. That doesn’t mean Floyd isn’t a strong competitor, though. His makeup and work ethic should allow him to maximize his talents.

 

Weaknesses: Floyd just needs innings and work in game situations. He’s learning which pitches to throw in certain counts and how to read hitters. He throws strikes to both sides of the plate but is refining his command in the strike zone. Floyd must use his fastball more and not rely so much on his curveball.

 

The Future: Though he’s as polished as any prep pitcher after one year in the minors, Floyd won’t be rushed. The Phillies’ minor league pitching depth will allow them to move him one level at a time. He can expect to start 2003 at high Class A Clearwater. Floyd profiles as a No. 1 starter.

QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 03:45 AM)
How does a .262 average in 2006 and a career .279 hitter make this trade go from crap to , "I'm really liking it"?

 

Cause at least we'd be getting a 4th outfielder that could help against LHP. This is a disasterous trade...Gavin Floyd stinks. I would have rather we keep Garcia and then risk losing him after this season.

i'm severely hating this deal... what the f*** is the point???

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:50 PM)
Im one of the biggest Kenny fanboys, and even I can say Williams looks awful right now.

Ditto.

 

Floyd seems practically worthless, Gio is a solid prospect though.

QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 02:45 PM)
How does a .262 average in 2006 and a career .279 hitter make this trade go from crap to , "I'm really liking it"?

Because then either he or Anderson can be traded for more young pitching (which you could either keep, or use at bait to upgrade somewhere else, like the pen or the OF).

Meh, I dont see how this trade helps us this year unless we are flipping them for something else.

WHAT A f***IN rip off!!!!!! Pathetic. I hope you Garcia haters are happy now.

this can't be right, there's no logic there.

Tom Dore may know nothing about baseball.... that still makes him slightly more credible than bruce levine

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