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The Pats are sick as hell... I still hate them, but damn.

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Not sure why the Patriots needed to blatently cheat with this much talent, at all, just makes it more confusing. But damn they are good, and damn the San Diego offense has major issues.

I'm thinking Randy Moss was worth a 4th round draft choice.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 11:56 AM)
Not sure why the Patriots needed to blatently cheat with this much talent, at all, just makes it more confusing. But damn they are good, and damn the San Diego offense has major issues.

And yet Norv Turner is meant to be an offensive genius

 

Could A.J Smith's ego cost this team a superbowl I wonder?

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 09:29 PM)
And yet Norv Turner is meant to be an offensive genius

 

Could A.J Smith's ego cost this team a superbowl I wonder?

 

Only giving LDT the ball 9 times in the second half last year cost them the Superbowl. Firing Schottenheimer when he mismanages a game so badly was almost necessary.

I was just thinking, if the Chargers want any hope they need a big defensive/special teams play... then they force the fumble.

and then all the wheels fall off for SD.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 04:38 PM)
Everybody can make fun of Wolfe all they want, but I can tell you right now that if he's in on 3rd down, he'll at least block the guy blitzing. I don't know if he can be an NFL running back or not, but he can block 10 times better than the 2 guys ahead of him in his sleep, and at least protect Rex.

 

the wierd thing is that Adrian Peterson was known to be pretty good at protecting the QB the last couple of years, but this year he has been flat out awful.

 

The blitz pickups have not been good and opposing defenses are probably going to continue pinning their ears back and rushing consistently until either Benson or Peterson start picking it up better, or until Rex starts making them play with some hot routes.

 

If neither of those two happen, Griese is going to be playing anyways because Grossman is going to have a concussion or some sort of serious injury. Seriously, some of the shots he is taking are just insane, painful to watch.

Man I wish the Bears would have went after David Carr. Grossman sucks, but Griese is probably just as bad.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 02:31 AM)
Only giving LDT the ball 9 times in the second half last year cost them the Superbowl. Firing Schottenheimer when he mismanages a game so badly was almost necessary.

 

I thought I remember reading Norv Turner's career head coaching record being something close to 20 games under .500. If that's true, it's tough for me to understand how he got the job so easily.

 

On an unrelated note, why hasn't Byron Leftwich been picked up yet? Has he deteriorated that much? I always thought he was an above average QB with an absolute cannon of an arm...

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 10:32 PM)
Man I wish the Bears would have went after David Carr. Grossman sucks, but Griese is probably just as bad.

 

I might be in the minority here, but in my opinion, I would rather see Orton in there who at least is very young, has potential and still could have a future here.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 10:44 PM)
I thought I remember reading Norv Turner's career head coaching record being something close to 20 games under .500. If that's true, it's tough for me to understand how he got the job so easily.

 

On an unrelated note, why hasn't Byron Leftwich been picked up yet? Has he deteriorated that much? I always thought he was an above average QB with an absolute cannon of an arm...

 

Yeah, I'm not a big Norv Turner fan either, and I really think the Chargers are going to disappoint a lot of people this year. Probably a 10 win team just because of how ridiculous the talent level is on that roster, but it really wouldn't surprise me if Turner's gone after this season. Outstanding OC, bad head coach.

 

I'd also assume he got the job simply because he was experienced and it was late in the offseason when Schottenheimer was fired.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 02:12 PM)
Yeah, I'm not a big Norv Turner fan either, and I really think the Chargers are going to disappoint a lot of people this year. Probably a 10 win team just because of how ridiculous the talent level is on that roster, but it really wouldn't surprise me if Turner's gone after this season. Outstanding OC, bad head coach.

 

I'd also assume he got the job simply because he was experienced and it was late in the offseason when Schottenheimer was fired.

They really mismanaged the situation there by not ending up with Phillips or Cameron as their head coach.

 

People may criticize Phillips' playoff record, but the guy knows how to run a defense very well, and his regular season record is really pretty decent.

I guess this makes sense on this thread.

 

there is ford commercial that got played like 100x during the games....who sings that song ont he commercial???

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QUOTE(SoxAce @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 10:48 PM)
I might be in the minority here, but in my opinion, I would rather see Orton in there who at least is very young, has potential and still could have a future here.

 

I use the same reasoning. I don't know how Orton would play against first string defenses in the NFL at this point, but would rather see him play than Griese since Griese hasn't been convincing himself.

QUOTE(Brian @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 08:20 AM)
I use the same reasoning. I don't know how Orton would play against first string defenses in the NFL at this point, but would rather see him play than Griese since Griese hasn't been convincing himself.

 

Grossman's main strength over Orton and Griese is his ability to go down the field with the ball. They haven't really done that at all yet, and if they don't plan on doing it, Orton is the better choice IMO.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 11:16 AM)
Grossman's main strength over Orton and Griese is his ability to go down the field with the ball. They haven't really done that at all yet, and if they don't plan on doing it, Orton is the better choice IMO.

Orton sucks. He is a career backup maybe.

Grossman sucks. He is a career lower-level quarterback.

 

Of course, he's the best option we have, but that isn't saying anything.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 05:30 PM)
Grossman sucks. He is a career lower-level quarterback.

 

Of course, he's the best option we have, but that isn't saying anything.

Luckily hes a free agent. ESPN the mag said McNabb is destined for chicago next season.

Shame it isn't this season. I'm not sure what condition the Bears will be in next season, not to mention McNabb's body.

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QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 12:16 PM)
Grossman's main strength over Orton and Griese is his ability to go down the field with the ball. They haven't really done that at all yet, and if they don't plan on doing it, Orton is the better choice IMO.

It bothers me that the Bears aren't taking shots. Berrian's running all these medium routes, Bradley hasn't caught a pass yet, nor has Hester, and one of his few targets is a dump-off.

 

On some of Rex's passes for receivers coming back, he throws it WAY in front. The Bears as a whole just seem to be playing scared, frightened about the pick. You don't collect speed at the wr position and run comebacks all the time. Let the ball fly once in a while, goddammit.

Has Bradley even set foot on the field? I know I haven't seen him.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 06:10 PM)
Luckily hes a free agent. ESPN the mag said McNabb is destined for chicago next season.

Yeah, McNabb is likely gonna be cut by the Eagles to save some money for the Eagles, and in the draft they did spend a high second round pick on Kevin Kolb, I believe it was.

 

And I'd have no problem with McNabb in Chicago. In fact, I'd love it.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 17, 2007 -> 07:50 PM)
Has Bradley even set foot on the field? I know I haven't seen him.

Honestly, I haven't noticed him either. Game 1 he was still recovering -- he said himself that he played 4 snaps. This past week, he was supposed to be healthy, he was certainly active, but...?

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