July 27, 200718 yr I dunno, but seriously, I think the Mets may kick themselves a little bit for letting a guy go to the Phillies to fill the same hole in their lineup that the mets have for this price. The mets have trouble letting anyone minor leaguers go for a "rent-a-player."
July 27, 200718 yr So we should expect a couple of churros and an autographed Pete Incaviglia card from Texas for Dye? And if that is all KW gets.. You need to shut your mouth.. He knows more than you... that's what we got told in Spring training.
July 27, 200718 yr Iguchi came through in one of the biggest at bats in franchise history. His homer after the ball went through Tony G's legs was very underrated. The White Sox most likely would have lost that game if not for that, and who knows what would have happened. Here's to you Gooch.
July 27, 200718 yr QUOTE(SoxFan77 @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 03:17 PM) And if that is all KW gets.. You need to shut your mouth.. He knows more than you... that's what we got told in Spring training. ROTFLMAO!!!
July 27, 200718 yr QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 04:14 PM) Again, what did you expect for a poor defensive player in the last year of his contract, hitting .250 with only 6 home runs and 30 RBI. What exactly? More than a 21 year old single A relief pitcher with mediocre peripherals. This is, after all, the value received from a ballclub losing their All-Star second baseman. Edited July 27, 200718 yr by Flash Tizzle
July 27, 200718 yr The Chicago White Sox have acquired right-handed pitcher Michael Dubee from the Philadelphia Phillies in exchange for second baseman Tadahito Iguchi. Dubee, 21, is 4-4 with a 3.88 ERA (24 ER/55.2 IP), one save and 54 strikeouts in 30 relief appearances this season with Class A Lakewood of the South Atlantic League. The 6-foot-2, 175-pounder has averaged 8.7 strikeouts per 9.0 IP and has allowed just two home runs. Dubee was selected by the Phillies in the 18th round of the June 2006 First-Year Player Draft. He has gone 5-7 with a 4.05 ERA (45 ER/100.0 IP) and 82 strikeouts in 42 games (10 starts) over two minor-league seasons. Dubee is the son of Phillies pitching coach Rich Dubee. Iguchi, 32, is batting .251 (82-327) with 17 doubles, four triples, six home runs and 31 RBI in 90 games with the White Sox this season. He is a career .273 (380-1,393) hitter with 39 home runs, 169 RBI and 216 runs scored in three seasons with the White Sox. Iguchi originally was signed by the White Sox as a free agent on January 27, 2005 after spending eight seasons with the Fukuoka Daiei Hawks in the Japanese Pacific League. Press Release
July 27, 200718 yr He is in the last year of his contract, hitting .250 with 6 HRs and 30 RBI, and is poor defensively. What were you expecting. Please tell me. Instead of jsut saying how bad it was, offer up something inteligent to the conversation.
July 27, 200718 yr QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 04:20 PM) What exactly did you expect in return Dick Hea......er Big Sqwert? He is in the last year of his contract, hitting .250 with 6 HRs and 30 RBI, and is poor defensively. What were you expecting. Please tell me. Instead of jsut saying how bad it was, offer up something inteligent to the conversation. First learn how to spell the word intelligent before telling someone how to behave intelligently. Edited July 27, 200718 yr by BigSqwert
July 27, 200718 yr QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 04:21 PM) First learn how to spell the word intelligent before telling someone how to behave intelligently. little boys go take a timeout.
July 27, 200718 yr My picture below sums up the thanks a lot of us have to Tadahito for his major contributions to our Championship
July 27, 200718 yr Didn't expect much in dealing with Iguchi, and that's what we got. Just remember, KW is horrible at trading his veteran players for prospects. And please stop talking about how we cost ourselves compensation picks, as that's not accurate. Now let's hope Richar shows he can be a major league player.
July 27, 200718 yr Rotoworld's take: White Sox acquired RHP Michael Dubee from the Phillies for second baseman Tadahito Iguchi. A very disappointing return for the White Sox, who must have wanted to go to Danny Richar pretty badly. Dubee had a 3.88 ERA and a 54/22 K/BB ratio in 55 2/3 innings of relief for low Single-A Lakewood. The White Sox would have been a lot better off getting draft picks in return for Iguchi, but they might have been afraid that he'd accept arbitration as a free agent this winter.
July 27, 200718 yr QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 04:21 PM) little boys go take a timeout. I'm out of here. He can turn red in the face and shake with anger for all I care.
July 27, 200718 yr More than a 21 year old single A relief pitcher with mediocre peripherals. This is, after all, the value received from a ballclub losing their All-Star second baseman. Ok, then what exactly? Please tell me. I am sure the Phillies could look for other options than Iguchi if they wanted to pay more. How about someone that is actually good, like Loretta?
July 27, 200718 yr As it's already been said in this thread, we wouldn't get draft picks in compensation for Gooch this winter.
July 27, 200718 yr QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 02:22 PM) As it's already been said in this thread, we wouldn't get draft picks in compensation for Gooch this winter. Rotoworld sure seems to think so?
July 27, 200718 yr He is in the last year of his contract, hitting .250 with 6 HRs and 30 RBI, and is poor defensively. What were you expecting. Please tell me. Instead of jsut saying how bad it was, offer up something inteligent to the conversation. With Mets, Padres and Phils all looking for 2b.. the best we get back is a A RP who will never make it to the majors?
July 27, 200718 yr QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 03:22 PM) As it's already been said in this thread, we wouldn't get draft picks in compensation for Gooch this winter. However I do believe that is incorrect...
July 27, 200718 yr QUOTE(Sox It To Em @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 09:23 PM) I think I'm going to be sick. Why, this is a good thing we traded him. I was fearful we'd bring him back. We need someone who can play better defense and not absolutely suck vs LHP.
July 27, 200718 yr With Mets, Padres and Phils all looking for 2b.. the best we get back is a A RP who will never make it to the majors? Why would they pay for him when there is actually a good player out there in Loretta that can help so much more? Loretta should bring something back in return - he is actually a good player. Iguchi? Please. It looks like the Sox were just making room for Richar to come up and get some playing time, which is great with me.
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