February 15, 200818 yr gotta be a tought night to try to rest comfortably in Dekalb, im so sorry guys!!!
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 11:09 PM) Good to see you are alright man. Can you believe it happened to our school? I hate that NIU now is associated with what this psychopath did. One of the victims worked for the star and they have his info up on their site www.northernstar.info Yeah, I've had some luck in the last few minutes. One FINALLY texted me back, I have been able to pretty much confirm another person is fine (although I'd prefer to actually talk to him, but it's on good word), still 1 person I am quite worried about though. And yeah, I have met the dude that worked at the star a few times in passing, although I didn't know him. Nice guy at least in the brief exchanges we had, what a shame. I thought it couldn't get worse last year since my best friend from HS goes to Virginia Tech and was right near the shootings as they happened and had met the shooter a few months earlier and had survivors guilt...........but now perhaps it has. Edited February 15, 200818 yr by knightni
February 15, 200818 yr Prayers go out to everyone involved, their families, and every NIU student/staff member.
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(bmags @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 01:53 AM) If you all ever need anything, my email will be in my name here. echo that sentiment, though mines witesoxfan@gmail.com...not sure thats my email on here Thoughts and prayers remain with all of you; stay safe.
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 11:14 PM) Yeah, I've had some luck in the last few minutes. One FINALLY texted me back, I have been able to pretty much confirm another person is fine (although I'd prefer to actually talk to him, but it's on good word), still 1 person I am quite worried about though. And yeah, I have met the dude that worked at the star a few times in passing, although I didn't know him. Nice guy at least in the brief exchanges we had, what a shame. I thought it couldn't get worse last year since my best friend from HS goes to Virginia Tech and was right near the shootings as they happened and had met the shooter a few months earlier and had survivors guilt...........but now perhaps it has. Good to see you're alright, man. My cousin is up at NIU and I guess her and my aunt completely freaked out so my dad went to go pick both of them up. Scary crap. People are just messed up.
February 15, 200818 yr Steven Phillip Kazmierczak is the name of the shooter, according to the Northern Star.
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 08:46 AM) Steven Phillip Kazmierczak is the name of the shooter, according to the Northern Star. yeah already in the wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Illi...hooting#_note-2
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 09:42 AM) I'm sick to my stomach. for everyone involved. We are all involved. It keeps happening over and over again. High school, college. Doesn't matter. And yes, I'm sick to my stomach about this and also for our nation. Perhaps we were too quick to kick God out of the schools.
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 10:45 AM) We are all involved. It keeps happening over and over again. High school, college. Doesn't matter. And yes, I'm sick to my stomach about this and also for our nation. Perhaps we were too quick to kick God out of the schools. perhaps, but I feel like our entire culture has made this shift because of technology and lack of personal responsibility. School is just one aspect of that culture. So for me, I think it's more about people kicking God out of their lives, public arena, and in addition Churches distancing themselves from culture to "protect" its people. (all big mistakes)
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 09:58 AM) perhaps, but I feel like our entire culture has made this shift because of technology and lack of personal responsibility. School is just one aspect of that culture. So for me, I think it's more about people kicking God out of their lives, public arena, and in addition Churches distancing themselves from culture to "protect" its people. (all big mistakes) i think it has nothing to do with God.
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 11:10 AM) i think it has nothing to do with God. Fair enough.
February 15, 200818 yr This is not the right place for this discussion for a "god" discussion. Let's stick to worrying about the people involved and showing support and care for them in this thread please. I will start a thread in the Buster--but let's keep this one apolitical.
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) This is not the right place for this discussion for a "god" discussion. Let's stick to worrying about the people involved and showing support and care for them in this thread please. I will start a thread in the Buster--but let's keep this one apolitical. good call.
February 15, 200818 yr Not that I want to give more attention to this guy but here is a little more about him. Oops not the link i wanted to post now I cant find the correct one sorry.But I do recall the story said he had garnered attention for his work in the prison systems. Edited February 15, 200818 yr by shipps
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 11:15 AM) This is not the right place for this discussion for a "god" discussion. Let's stick to worrying about the people involved and showing support and care for them in this thread please. I will start a thread in the Buster--but let's keep this one apolitical. that's why I did not proceed. Thanks for making the statement though.
February 15, 200818 yr Here is the latest I seen on this.... DEKALB, Ill. - The man who gunned down five people at Northern Illinois University in a suicidal rampage became erratic after halting his medication and carried a shotgun to campus inside a guitar case, police said Friday. The man, 27-year-old former student Stephen Kazmierczak, was also wielding three handguns during Thursday's ambush inside a lecture hall. Two of the weapons — the pump-action Remington shotgun and a Glock 9mm handgun — were purchased legally less than a week ago, on Feb. 9, authorities said. They were purchased in Champaign, where Kazmierczak was enrolled at the University of Illinois. The other weapons were still being traced. Gunman's father The gunman's father, Robert Kazmierczak, briefly came out of his house in Lakeland, Fla., to talk to reporters. "Please leave me alone. ... This is a very hard time for me," he said as he threw his arms up and wept. He declined further comment about his son and then went back inside his house, saying he was diabetic. Campus Police Chief Donald Grady said investigators recovered 48 shell casings and six shotgun shells following the attack in Cole Hall. The gunman paused to reload his shotgun after opening fire on a crowd of terrified students in a geology class, sending them running and crawling toward the exits. He shot himself to death on the stage of the hall. Kazmierczak, whose first name was earlier listed as Steven, was taking some kind of medication, Grady said. "He had stopped taking medication and become somewhat erratic in the last couple of weeks," Grady said, declining to name the drug or provide other details. Miscommunication Correcting information his office released earlier Friday, DeKalb County Coroner Rusty Miller said five students, not six, were killed in the rampage, in addition to the gunman. Miller said the higher victim total was the result of confusion over the fate of a patient taken to another county for treatment. "There was a miscommunication," Miller said.
February 15, 200818 yr Has there been any mention if there was significance on it being Valentine's Day? I've only had a chance to skim a few articles.
February 15, 200818 yr Author QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 02:57 PM) Has there been any mention if there was significance on it being Valentine's Day? I've only had a chance to skim a few articles. No. But Nancy Grace (GAG ME!) on Headline News already labeled it the Valentines Day Campus Massacre.
February 15, 200818 yr QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 05:41 PM) No. But Nancy Grace (GAG ME!) on Headline News already labeled it the Valentines Day Campus Massacre. rucking fidiculous everything has to have "a name"...
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