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4/19 Gamethread: Sox (10-6) at Rays (7-10); 6:10; WGN

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All of those fans came to see carl crawford.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 03:22 PM)
You have to wonder why Tampa has held on to him for so long. They're not competing for the AL East title in the next few years, and by the time they can possibly have a shot, they'll lose him to free agency.

I think that a lot of people would disagree with your statement that this team won't be competing within the next few years. The correctness of that statement depends on how quickly some of their young guys develop. With the number of top draft picks already making up their roster, I wouldn't put anything past this team if they're coached well

 

Also, I think the D-Rays would have moved him already had they gotten an offer they were happy with, but they're setting the price deservedly high for a guy who gives you Crawford's numbers, and they probably also think that his value isn't going to drop until he has 1 year left on his contract unless he gets hurt.

Just got home. Why is AJ sitting against a righty?

Good question.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:24 AM)
I think that a lot of people would disagree with your statement that this team won't be competing within the next few years. The correctness of that statement depends on how quickly some of their young guys develop.

 

Also, I think the D-Rays would have moved him already had they gotten an offer they were happy with, but they're setting the price deservedly high for a guy who gives you Crawford's numbers, and they probably also think that his value isn't going to drop until he has 1 year left on his contract unless he gets hurt.

 

Their young pitchers are still a far way off from being legit MLB starters (see Niemann last night).

Maybe they think the rays suck so much that we don't need aj?

Probably not a good pitcher for Ramirez to have to face. Sonnanstine was very good against righty hitters last year, but he's been brutal in limited innings so far this year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 03:26 PM)
Their young pitchers are still a far way off from being legit MLB starters (see Niemann last night).

The guys you'd figure would be their top 2 are currently on the DL (Kazmir and Garza). That's going to hold any team back.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 06:25 PM)
Just got home. Why is AJ sitting against a righty?

 

Early start tomorrow?!?....I don't get it. I'm more puzzled why Juan's ass isn't sitting.....

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 11:27 PM)
The guys you'd figure would be their top 2 are currently on the DL (Kazmir and Garza). That's going to hold any team back.

 

Exactly, you give those two, Price, Niemann, Wade Davis, Edwin Jackson about two years, and you might have something. Doesn't Crawford have two years left?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 03:27 PM)
The guys you'd figure would be their top 2 are currently on the DL (Kazmir and Garza). That's going to hold any team back.

Oh, and David Price is expected to hit the big leagues before the end of the season. So whatever their starting 5 is now, next year, replace the 3 worst ones with Kazmir, garza, and Price.

 

Ouch.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 05:26 PM)
Their young pitchers are still a far way off from being legit MLB starters (see Niemann last night).

 

One would think they could deal Crawford for a pretty darn good young starter (Lincicum and Cain, of course, come to mind) and put together a rotation of Kazmir/Garza (when they become healthy) Shields/Sonnanstine or Jackson and have a better chance of competing than with Crawford.

 

What's killed them is Baldelli never being able to stay healthy...

I still think the Delmon Young trade was awful for them.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 06:30 PM)
One would think they could deal Crawford for a pretty darn good young starter (Lincicum and Cain, of course, come to mind) and put together a rotation of Kazmir/Garza (when they become healthy) Shields/Sonnanstine or Jackson and have a better chance of competing than with Crawford.

 

What's killed them is Baldelli never being able to stay healthy...

 

They should have dumped him when they had the chance....their bad. Now he's out indefinately.

Hawk complaining about these umps early and often. Maybe he should complain that Buehrle is up with everything.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 05:29 PM)
Exactly, you give those two, Price, Niemann, Wade Davis, Edwin Jackson about two years, and you might have something. Doesn't Crawford have two years left?

 

Crawford has this year, and then club options for 09' and 10' that will most certainly be picked up.

Nice job by Toby

What the f***!

Threw the f***in ball way too early

What the hell! Cabrera couldn't have played that worse.

Cabrera needed to get the hell out of the way, not catch the ball.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 19, 2008 -> 06:29 PM)
Exactly, you give those two, Price, Niemann, Wade Davis, Edwin Jackson about two years, and you might have something. Doesn't Crawford have two years left?

 

They also have the lefty Jacob McGee down in the minors .. they have a hell of a rotation if potential was guarenteed

 

 

also Crawford has 2 years left, but then the Rays have club options on him, I believe

OC F'd that one up....after you give it up...go back up and GTF outta the way.

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