StrangeSox Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 13, 2009 -> 05:45 PM) my paper keeps having these discussions about the online comments continually being derided by racist and ignorant comments. I just tell them that if they don't want hate-filled, childish, racist commentary in their comment section, they shouldn't have a comment section. The only times it works are in niche sites, usually involved in the technical aspects of something rather than general politics, fueled by emotion. Comments at the end of articles are just painful to read. I really don't know what purpose they serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Jimmy Carter, I heart you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (Soxy @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 09:06 AM) Jimmy Carter, I heart you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (Soxy @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 09:06 AM) Jimmy Carter, I heart you. How do you have time to read when you have all that cooking and cleaning to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) How do you have time to read when you have all that cooking and cleaning to do? I know you're kidding but sometimes I wonder about your sense of humor. By the way, I think this is the only time I have said this in my life, but I agree with Jimmy Carter re: this article. Wow. (Goes and slaps himself... ). Now I'm going to go get myself electrocuted. (Seriously. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (Soxy @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 09:06 AM) Jimmy Carter, I heart you. This is a good article and Carter is right on, but the reference to Billy Graham was dumb. I'm not sure referencing a guy who is anti-Semitic is good for an article on equal rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 09:39 AM) I know you're kidding but sometimes I wonder about your sense of humor. By the way, I think this is the only time I have said this in my life, but I agree with Jimmy Carter re: this article. Wow. (Goes and slaps himself... ). Now I'm going to go get myself electrocuted. (Seriously. ) I've learned to like Jimmy Carter. If it wasn't for Jimmy Carter, there wouldn't have been Ronald Reagan, or at least not the Ronald Reagon as in iconic figure for the GOP, pure awesomeness, etc... Also, I thought my joke was a good one. Or at least it was funny when I thought it in my head... Edited July 14, 2009 by BearSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Jimmy Carter is a good person who was a lousy President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 10:26 AM) Jimmy Carter is a good person who was a lousy President. The hostages say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (Soxy @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 09:06 AM) Jimmy Carter, I heart you. I have always been a big fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 08:29 AM) The hostages say hello. Our total lack of an energy policy says hello also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Those 20,000+ Pro-Western Iranians say h....... oops. Jimmy kinda dropped the ball on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 12:03 PM) Those 20,000+ Pro-Western Iranians say h....... oops. Jimmy kinda dropped the ball on that one. What? Yes the hostage crisis was handled badly esp. when the operation failed but dropping the ball in Iran goes all the way back to Eisenhower. Edited July 14, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 11:07 AM) What? Yes the hostage crisis was handled badly esp. when the operation failed but dropping the ball in Iran goes all the way back to Eisenhower. I'm talking about when Jimmy screwed over our greatest Ally in the middle-east and muslim world the Shah because they "violated human rights." Funny thing is because of that, Ayatolla Khoemeini got in power, and executed pro-western iranians, put women back in servitude, etc. Good work there Jimmy! Not to mention he is an anti-semitic... But he now supports women's rights!!! Except if they so happen to be living in a muslim country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 09:18 AM) I'm talking about when Jimmy screwed over our greatest Ally in the middle-east and muslim world the Shah because they "violated human rights." Funny thing is because of that, Ayatolla Khoemeini got in power, and executed pro-western iranians, put women back in servitude, etc. Good work there Jimmy! Not to mention he is an anti-semitic... But he now supports women's rights!!! Except if they so happen to be living in a muslim country. So the Shah's downfall was that the U.S. didn't stand behind him enough, not the fact that he was an incredibly corrupt dictator who's country was falling apart underneath him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 12:18 PM) I'm talking about when Jimmy screwed over our greatest Ally in the middle-east and muslim world the Shah because they "violated human rights." Funny thing is because of that, Ayatolla Khoemeini got in power, and executed pro-western iranians, put women back in servitude, etc. Good work there Jimmy! Not to mention he is an anti-semitic... But he now supports women's rights!!! Except if they so happen to be living in a muslim country. lol, this is the equivalent of Juan Uribe wildly flailing at a strike 3 that sails over his head and missing it by a foot and a half. I'm not sure exactly where you got that crazy version of events but here is the abridged version of the sequence that actually happened: Post-WWII Iran is a Western ally and former British colonial interest, private British oil companies are in Iran making tons of profits off Iranian oil. Iran at this time is a pro-Western democracy and US ally although it's close to the Soviet Union. Iranians elect Mossadegh, who decides to nationalize Iranian oil to keep the money for Iran. Brits get pissed off because they stand to lose a lot of money, and try to convince Truman that Mossadegh is a secret Communist (even though reality is Mossadegh hates Communists, just doesn't want imperial influence in his country). Truman doesn't buy it, but doesn't seek re-election and Eisenhower takes over. Brits eventually convince Eisenhower that there is a threat of a Communist takeover in Iran (there's not but Eisenhower doesn't know any better at this point) and in 1953 the US and UK organize a coup to put the shah in power. Now at this point the Shah is basically Saddam, and the human rights abuses happen because of us (remember, it was a Western-style democracy with a strong pro-US population) to keep him in control, and naturally the support for the US begins to fade. So in 1979 Carter convinces the shah to stop beating and torturing and executing people, and when he loosens his already shaky grip his government comes crumbling down. Carter didn't cause it though, it was already happening and to blame him for what happened is crazy talk. The straw that broke the camel's back is when Carter allowed the shah into the US to get treatment because he was dying of cancer. This really, really pisses the Iranians off and led to the embassy takeover. Carter's response to it was bungled, they attempted a rescue mission that failed and was a big embarrassment. The hostage crisis is what did Carter in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 12:21 PM) So the Shah's downfall was that the U.S. didn't stand behind him enough, not the fact that he was an incredibly corrupt dictator who's country was falling apart underneath him? Nevermind that we are the ones who put him in power and they were already our allies before that. Money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 lol Michael Steele. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bil-browning...i_b_231534.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 02:09 PM) lol Michael Steele. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bil-browning...i_b_231534.html Imagine if a white democrat said that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 02:12 PM) Imagine if a white democrat said that... Ok, I will. It would be "misinterpreted" and blown off as the equivalent of a "gaffe". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 03:13 PM) Ok, I will. It would be "misinterpreted" and blown off as the equivalent of a "gaffe". Yeah? Kind of like this, right? I just find it lol-worthy because you'd think Steele would know better. You have most Republicans trying to back off any perception of racist nonsense and about every couple of months or so you hear someone saying something dumb making them all look bad, or doing something dumb (racist e-mail in TN where she apologized not for sending it but for sending it to the wrong people). Then you have Steele saying something that is awfully close to sounding like an ethnic stereotype as the head of the GOP. Facepalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 02:19 PM) Yeah? Kind of like this, right? I just find it lol-worthy because you'd think Steele would know better. You have most Republicans trying to back off any perception of racist nonsense and about every couple of months or so you hear someone saying something dumb making them all look bad, or doing something dumb (racist e-mail in TN where she apologized not for sending it but for sending it to the wrong people). Then you have Steele saying something that is awfully close to sounding like an ethnic stereotype as the head of the GOP. Facepalm. Michael Steele is a f***ing dope. But, it doesn't matter one iota. I was commenting on AHB's point, and it would absolutely be less of an issue if a Democrat (or affiliation) said something racist. Witness this week's SCOTUS circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 03:22 PM) Michael Steele is a f***ing dope. But, it doesn't matter one iota. I was commenting on AHB's point, and it would absolutely be less of an issue if a Democrat (or affiliation) said something racist. Witness this week's SCOTUS circus. Nobody's made an issue out of Sotomayor's "wise Latina" comment? Nobody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 03:22 PM) Michael Steele is a f***ing dope. But, it doesn't matter one iota. I was commenting on AHB's point, and it would absolutely be less of an issue if a Democrat (or affiliation) said something racist. Witness this week's SCOTUS circus. Are you talking about the incident when Jeff Sessions asked Sotomayor why she didn't vote with her fellow Puerto Rican on a court case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I remember when Obama called rural americans "bitter" and nobody talked about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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