StrangeSox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Guys it was a trick question, the correct answer was "no, it should nationalize them" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 10:18 AM) Actually, I'd say that the main competition for domestic live Christmas trees is plastic Christmas trees, most likely produced in Asia, and then imported into the U.S. Now here is where you might have a bit of a logical conundrum, Balta. Which is more environmentally friendly? A plastic tree that you use for 10 years, or 10 individual trees that are farmed and have to be regrown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 10:21 AM) Now here is where you might have a bit of a logical conundrum, Balta. Which is more environmentally friendly? A plastic tree that you use for 10 years, or 10 individual trees that are farmed and have to be regrown? I'm pretty sure it's been studied in-depth and found that live trees are better than plastic, and that the best route is to buy a tree with roots in-tact and replant it in your yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 10:06 AM) I'm not sure that "Subsidize" is the correct word here, since no taxpayer funds are at risk, it's just making use of the already extant system of collecting and distributing taxes to allow funds to be pooled in a certain way. The government definitely does subsidize US based agricultural industry advertising already, to the tune of billions of taxpayer dollars. It'd be a lot nicer if those subsidies were set up like this. You don't think this is a waste of the USGA's money and resources? Also, much like the auto-bailouts weren't going to cost the tax payers money - how's that working out? Didn't they just up the losses from 14 billion to 24 billion? My law firm would love it if we could just tack on .15 cents to each billable hour we work. We'll promise to use the funds SOLELY to fund our lobbyist...er...create marketing campaigns against tort reform. Cool? Edited November 18, 2011 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 10:49 AM) You don't think this is a waste of the USGA's money and resources? Also, much like the auto-bailouts weren't going to cost the tax payers money - how's that working out? Didn't they just up the losses from 14 billion to 24 billion? My law firm would love it if we could just tack on .15 cents to each billable hour we work. We'll promise to use the funds SOLELY to fund our lobbyist...er...create marketing campaigns against tort reform. Cool? You can tack on whatever you want. That's different from an industry-wide tax to support industry-wide advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) You can tack on whatever you want. That's different from an industry-wide tax to support industry-wide advertising. So make it industry wide. What's the difference? It's an incredibly stupid idea. It's using the government (public) for a purely private interest. Edited November 18, 2011 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 10:52 AM) So make it industry wide. What's the difference? It's an incredibly stupid idea. It's using the government (public) for a purely private interest. I'm in agreement that this probably isn't a good idea, but your example didn't make much sense. A similar initiative would be the government adding a .15 tax to all legal services and using it to fund an advertising campaign for legal services, not a single law firm doing it. But there's no reason that industry trade groups couldn't get together without government sponsorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Crazy Idaho guy who thinks the government is out to get him and Obama is the devil who shoots at White House? "Occupy" Shooter lol Fox News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 10:55 AM) I'm in agreement that this probably isn't a good idea, but your example didn't make much sense. A similar initiative would be the government adding a .15 tax to all legal services and using it to fund an advertising campaign for legal services, not a single law firm doing it. But there's no reason that industry trade groups couldn't get together without government sponsorship. That is what I meant. My firm can tack on some government-imposed fee for legal services (as would others) for the purpose of paying for a lobbyist (marketing) to lobby (advertise) for something the industry in general might want (like tort-reform). At least we both agree it's a stupid idea to get the government involved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 11:01 AM) That is what I meant. My firm can tack on some government-imposed fee for legal services (as would others) for the purpose of paying for a lobbyist (marketing) to lobby (advertise) for something the industry in general might want (like tort-reform). At least we both agree it's a stupid idea to get the government involved! no, I already clarified, the correct answer is to bypass corporatocracy by nationalizing industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 lol fox news "fair and balanced" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 11:21 AM) Now here is where you might have a bit of a logical conundrum, Balta. Which is more environmentally friendly? A plastic tree that you use for 10 years, or 10 individual trees that are farmed and have to be regrown? I think you're setting up this question to shoot down what Balta is saying by asking a leading question to suggest plastic trees are better... but, they're not. Live trees are grown and recycled, a lot of times grown locally, while they're grown they take in CO2, and when they're done being used they're biodegradeable. Plastic trees are produced using chemicals, usually somewhere like China, and then they're shipped across the Pacific/thru the Panama canal halfway around the world, all of which pollutes. Then when the tree breaks down it gets thrown in a dumpster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 07:13 PM) I think you're setting up this question to shoot down what Balta is saying by asking a leading question to suggest plastic trees are better... but, they're not. Live trees are grown and recycled, a lot of times grown locally, while they're grown they take in CO2, and when they're done being used they're biodegradeable. Plastic trees are produced using chemicals, usually somewhere like China, and then they're shipped across the Pacific/thru the Panama canal halfway around the world, all of which pollutes. Then when the tree breaks down it gets thrown in a dumpster. I sort of was, but honestly was also curious. I didn't know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 How can we quibble about politics with Jay Cutler having a broken thumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 10:39 AM) How can we quibble about politics with Jay Cutler having a broken thumb Just watch some NBA... oh right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Herman Cain is the gift that keeps on giving. I think might like him more than Palin now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'm having difficulty finding news on tahrir square. It seems encouraging that despite the deaths, the government is being...responsive, i guess? people are stepping down over it. Thoughts go out to those young people trying to change their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 03:49 PM) I'm having difficulty finding news on tahrir square Prof. Cole is always a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I like the creativity - Michele Bachmann’s Intro Song On Jimmy Fallon: ‘Lyin’ Ass b****’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Beware the secret Islamofascist turkeys infiltrating a dinner table near you! http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/hap...anksgiving.html I have to assume that this blog is an elaborate troll and that its name is intentionally ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Don't really know where to put this, but feel like it should be posted... Maggie Daley has died after a 9 year battle with Cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 25, 2011 -> 07:52 AM) Don't really know where to put this, but feel like it should be posted... Maggie Daley has died after a 9 year battle with Cancer. 9 years. Wowsers. I can honestly say rest in peace after dealing with that for that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VictoryMC98 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Barney Frank announced that he will not rerun in 2012 http://news.yahoo.com/democratic-rep-barne...-190526163.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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