Friend of Nordhagen Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 08:13 PM) I love the Nick Swisher is good arguement... the guy is hitting .226 with 120 strikeouts, but is considered good because he is "patient" (which is BS anyway as he is much too patient at bat, letting good pitches go and K'ing way too many times looking) and walks a fair amount of times. He's fake funny, though. Can't put a price on fake funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 i swear if boone poops the bed again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 this is all that i will say about this silly, silly arguement, but AJ, crede, Cabrera, Uribe have never had an obp of .343 in an entire season let alone had an obp of .343 while hitting 24 HRs, meanwhile swisher is having a down year and those are his #s.... in addition it doesnt appear as if ramirez will ever have an obp north of .330 either, but at least he hits extra base hits and appears as if he can hold a .330 obp (though im skeptical that he will continue to hit .300 in the future) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 hey,it s Boone Logan time!!!yiiipeeeeeeeee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 10, 2008 -> 03:08 AM) i hate the cocksucking mother f***ing twins I happen to like the Twins lately, as they've been brutal and had some losses that are inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Boy the Sox sure do have a lot of garbage on their 40 man roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 feel bad for paulie - he was on his way to redeeming the season and possibly leading this team when it needed him most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (BearSox @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 10:13 PM) I love the Nick Swisher is good arguement... the guy is hitting .226 with 120 strikeouts, but is considered good because he is "patient" (which is BS anyway as he is much too patient at bat, letting good pitches go and K'ing way too many times looking) and walks a fair amount of times. not sure anyone said hes good....just that hes far from being the worst hitter among the regulars....let alone the worst in the league but you know what i love? people who continue to use antiquated stats like batting average in their arguements (i mean honestly, the batting average myth has been debunked for so many years i have no idea why people continue to put so much stock in it....if people are unwilling to accept more sophisticated stats i understand some of that, but i'll never understand why people cant get that looking at batting average without looking at peripheral stats is simply pointless) Edited September 10, 2008 by daa84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 09:13 PM) So it's the MCL? I'm sure they'll take him for an MRI, but even if it's torn, at least it's not the ACL. Lets hope it's an MCL injury. Worst case scenario with the MCL is surgery, and then 3-4 months recovery time, meaning he would at least be ready around ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 Good job Boone...too bad you didn't pitch Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 This team simply is "that" good. Detroit and Cleveland fell off the face of the earth. The Royals are still the Royals. That kinda left us right there, along with the Twins, by default. Are we a bad team? No. But we're terribly flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Sep 10, 2008 -> 02:17 AM) Lets hope it's an MCL injury. Worst case scenario with the MCL is surgery, and then 3-4 months recovery time, meaning he would at least be ready around ST. Let's just hope he doesn't go crazy tonight and the Sox have to call the police on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 09:15 PM) this is all that i will say about this silly, silly arguement, but AJ, crede, Cabrera, Uribe have never had an obp of .343 in an entire season let alone had an obp of .343 while hitting 24 HRs, meanwhile swisher is having a down year and those are his #s.... in addition it doesnt appear as if ramirez will ever have an obp north of .330 either, but at least he hits extra base hits and appears as if he can hold a .330 obp (though im skeptical that he will continue to hit .300 in the future) When did OBP become the determining point of how good a hitter is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 09:18 PM) Let's just hope he doesn't go crazy tonight and the Sox have to call the police on him. I wasn't able to watch it, but what was his reaction to going down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 to lose a game and a half in one day is inexcusable,especially at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 10:18 PM) When did OBP become the determining point of how good a hitter is? its a hell of a lot more telling than batting average.....and frankly this is fact, not even opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 09:20 PM) to lose a game and a half in one day is inexcusable,especially at home I would say scoring 3 runs in 17 innings in the modern era, in one of the easiest parks to hit in would be my inexcusable moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Sep 10, 2008 -> 03:19 AM) I wasn't able to watch it, but what was his reaction to going down? It was in reference to Vince Young. PK reacted like he was done for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 HEY! We got a f***ing hit!!! Just 10 more and we'll be right back in this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 09:15 PM) this is all that i will say about this silly, silly arguement, but AJ, crede, Cabrera, Uribe have never had an obp of .343 in an entire season let alone had an obp of .343 while hitting 24 HRs, meanwhile swisher is having a down year and those are his #s.... in addition it doesnt appear as if ramirez will ever have an obp north of .330 either, but at least he hits extra base hits and appears as if he can hold a .330 obp (though im skeptical that he will continue to hit .300 in the future) OBP IS NOT THE SAME AS BATTING AVERAGE. Walks are really nice, I like hitters who take walks. But it looks like you are saying that Swish is a better hitter just because his OBP is higher. Walks don't drive in runs. Those players are without question better hitters than Swish (other than Uribe) until Swish bats .260. He's just no good right now, .228 with a .600 on base isn't good enough. You have to be able to hit to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 10, 2008 -> 03:21 AM) I would say scoring 3 runs in 17 innings in the modern era, in one of the easiest parks to hit in would be my inexcusable moment. This is like every other Sox season over the past 6 years or so. The offense just goes to hell the last month or so of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) They're choking. You don't lose two games at home in a double header like we have. I don't care if it's the "red hot" Blue Jays. Edited September 10, 2008 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 09:21 PM) OBP IS NOT THE SAME AS BATTING AVERAGE. He's just no good right now, .228 with a .600 on base isn't good enough. You have to be able to hit to be good. I know you are just making a point, but I would take a guy who hit .128 if he got on base at a .600 clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 09:20 PM) its a hell of a lot more telling than batting average.....and frankly this is fact, not even opinion batting average isn't a determining factor either... but I'd take a guy who hits around .300 with a .320 OBP over the guy batting .230 with an OBP around .340 any day of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 09:20 PM) its a hell of a lot more telling than batting average.....and frankly this is fact, not even opinion No, it's not. It's useful, but only looking at on base tells you nothing. You can look at batting average and know a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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