Princess Dye Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (BlackBetsy @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:44 PM) I challenge anyone to come up with anyone worse. Fernando Valenzuela. Wait if they have to still be in the league forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:45 PM) The Cards won the World Series in 2006 with an 83-79 record...Just get to the Playoffs and ANYTIHNG can happen!! That o6 cards team keeps me going this year and probably will every other year in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (BlackBetsy @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 08:44 PM) I challenge anyone to come up with anyone worse. It would be tough. There are some with worse numbers. Broadway is horrible, but he can shut teams down when its a blowout and they are just finishing out the game. When Ramirez comes in no matter what the circumstance, one thing is for certain, runs will be scored. Edited September 19, 2008 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 how many KC castoffs have been through our pitching staff? a few duds that come to mind are Sisco, Macdougal, Ramirez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:47 PM) how many KC castoffs have been through our pitching staff? a few duds that come to mind are Sisco, Macdougal, Ramirez... Scott Sullivan Is Ramirez really worse than Boone Logan and Wasserman? That's hard to believe. Edited September 19, 2008 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Our offense needs to do something to start scoring runs. I don't care how good pitching is. If we don't score runs, I rather not be in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:49 PM) Scott Sullivan See Ramirez had a good ERA coming in here (no idea how smal that sample size was) but as a Royals reliever you gotta think those guys are coming into sooo many already-decided contests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 that's good for dotel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dotel just struck out the side.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I don't agree with pitching Dotel this game. I know blowouts are the only games you can really trust him in now, but I really think his problem is he's gassed. He's made more appearances this year than he has in a long time. He needs rest if anything in an attempt to regain his form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:50 PM) See Ramirez had a good ERA coming in here (no idea how smal that sample size was) but as a Royals reliever you gotta think those guys are coming into sooo many already-decided contests. I would trade all of our relievers (except for Jenks/Thornton) that are now on our roster for Soria...and I am sure that Dayton Moore would still laugh at KW. Span/Casilla/Mauer/Morneau for the Twins in the Top of the 9th. It never seems to be easy! Edited September 19, 2008 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:51 PM) I don't agree with pitching Dotel this game. I know blowouts are the only games you can really trust him in now, but I really think his problem is he's gassed. He's made more appearances this year than he has in a long time. He needs rest if anything in an attempt to regain his form. Totally agreed. We know what he can do when not tired. Just sit him whenever possible and hope it comes back for the playoffs, ala Duque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:52 PM) I would trade all of our relievers (except for Jenks/Thornton) that are now on our roster for Soria...and I am sure that Dayton Moore would still laugh at KW. If they had Griffey wrapped up earlier, i wish they really woulda done something with an outfielder (BA?) going somewhere for at least a decent reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:51 PM) I don't agree with pitching Dotel this game. I know blowouts are the only games you can really trust him in now, but I really think his problem is he's gassed. He's made more appearances this year than he has in a long time. He needs rest if anything in an attempt to regain his form. I disagree that this was the wrong choice. I think being tired has factored into his poor performance, but tonight was a good low pressure situation to work on his stuff. He made strides in his last outing in that he did throw some offspeed for strikes, and tonight he put it all together and didn't make the big miss while still locating the curveball. He has something to build off of for when we throw him in the fire with a tight 8th inning lead now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:54 PM) If they had Griffey wrapped up earlier, i wish they really woulda done something with an outfielder (BA?) going somewhere for at least a decent reliever. Problem is, you have to pay a ton for decent relievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Al Reyes is available. I think the Sox should pick him up for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 01:50 AM) See Ramirez had a good ERA coming in here (no idea how smal that sample size was) but as a Royals reliever you gotta think those guys are coming into sooo many already-decided contests. Ramirez's numbers were inflated in a few extra inning games against the Sox. I was told his ERA is over 8 against the rest of baseball this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 07:54 PM) If they had Griffey wrapped up earlier, i wish they really woulda done something with an outfielder (BA?) going somewhere for at least a decent reliever. I think the odds of getting a decent reliever for Anderson were so-so at best. I'm actually warming to the idea of holding onto him...unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have a position with the Sox. However, his fundamentals (baserunning, shortening his swing, bunting, throwing to the right base and/or cut-off man, advancing runners) just don't seem to be there. Like Borchard and Fields, he's an athlete trying to play baseball, rather than a baseball player who's athletic (Alexei Ramirez would be an example of that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 08:49 PM) Is Ramirez really worse than Boone Logan and Wasserman? That's hard to believe. I know. That's what makes it so amazing. He's worse than Logan and Wasserman. That's hard to do if you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Maybe this game will give Dotel his confidence back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Leadoff man on for Twins in the 9th. I really don't like that they're not pitching Howell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Casilla HR 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 And the Twins tied it, just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Wow. Good for them. THey deserve to win the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Twins tie it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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