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White Sox @ Blue Jays 12:07pm WGNHD

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can we trade our existing starters for hanley ramirez and then just plug the remaining 8 spots with minor leaguers?

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QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 16, 2009 -> 02:39 PM)
what was the point of having lisa stone in the booth? she said "yes" to liking taco bell and never said another word.

Hahaha I was wondering the same thing.

I didn't think I'd ever say this, but I don't care if we win tomorrow. It will be a win in my book if Gavin can have a quality start.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 16, 2009 -> 02:39 PM)
what was the point of having lisa stone in the booth? she said "yes" to liking taco bell and never said another word.

When Hawk's wife is there, she sits up in the booth as well. I don't think its a big deal.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:51 PM)
I didn't think I'd ever say this, but I don't care if we win tomorrow. It will be a win in my book if Gavin can have a quality start.

i'm with you there. i don't know about anyone else, but i wasn't expecting a win today and wasn't surprised they lost.

 

I also wonder if Colon was hurt - he only threw like 60 pitches, right?

For me personally, it makes matters worse that it seems just as we're going into the tank, the Cubs are going on a huge run. At least the Blackhawks are still going to keep the focus off of baseball in the city.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 16, 2009 -> 08:37 PM)
Yeah, I have no problem with Podsednik's effort today. Great job in the first inning, and then a good throw to get the runner.

 

It is the definition of futility though. We scored that run without the benefit of a hity. And that was all she wrote on our offsne for the day. Of course our pen couldn't hold it either

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 16, 2009 -> 02:40 PM)
Forget Lillibridge and Pods and anyone else who is getting guff on this team. I am getting sick of the guys who actually should be good not doing anything. That is the part of this team that has been really bothering me. Guys like John Danks, Gavin Floyd, Alexei Ramirez, Josh Fields, and Carlos Quentin aren't doing their jobs, and that renders the production of guys like Broadway and Lillibridge as pointless.

You're right, we should focus more not on the guys who are supposed to do poorly doing just that, but rather on the guys who are supposed to be productive not getting the job done. I pick on Lillibridge and probably shouldn't, but I think my frustration with him is more frustration with management having him on the roster.

 

Danks looked like a Cy Young favorite for 3 starts and now doesn't look like he can get anyone out. Quentin started slow, got real hot,and is injured and mediocre again. At least we know they are capable of being excellent players this year as they have been excellent players this year for a short while. Ramirez, Fields and Floyd have mostly just been bad. Its still early, but how long do you go before its not just a slump but what you can expect from these players? I don't think we are there yet, but it is getting close.

 

Losses when your starter gives up nothing are hard to take.

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Kinda creepy.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 16, 2009 -> 03:09 PM)
You're right, we should focus more not on the guys who are supposed to do poorly doing just that, but rather on the guys who are supposed to be productive not getting the job done. I pick on Lillibridge and probably shouldn't, but I think my frustration with him is more frustration with management having him on the roster.

 

Danks looked like a Cy Young favorite for 3 starts and now doesn't look like he can get anyone out. Quentin started slow, got real hot,and is injured and mediocre again. At least we know they are capable of being excellent players this year as they have been excellent players this year for a short while. Ramirez, Fields and Floyd have mostly just been bad. Its still early, but how long do you go before its not just a slump but what you can expect from these players? I don't think we are there yet, but it is getting close.

 

Losses when your starter gives up nothing are hard to take.

 

Yup. If Bartolo gives up 6 ER or something like that is one thing. But he pitched a hell of a game and it goes for nothing. I still don't expect Bartolo to make it to the all-star break without hitting the DL or worse. So it's critical we take advantage of the fact he's throwing the ball fairly well right now.

Has anyone from the Sox brass ever come out and comment on getting punked by no name pitchers? This is ridiculous. The guy made 2 starts with an ERA of 6 and shuts us down completely.

 

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around, does it make a sound.

 

Could Gavin Floyd pitch well against the Sox offense? That'll spin your wheels for a while.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 16, 2009 -> 04:57 PM)
Could Gavin Floyd pitch well against the Sox offense? That'll spin your wheels for a while.

Did you see those pics? Robert Ray is Gavin's twin.

If things continue the way they are right now does any one thing Ozzie might get on thin ice?

QUOTE (Baines3 @ May 16, 2009 -> 03:36 PM)
If things continue the way they are right now does any one thing Ozzie might get on thin ice?

No. Dude won the division last year, out-performs the "Computer expectations" every year, has a world series and 2 division titles to his credit in 5 years.

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Ozzieis safe until Ozzie wants to leave...and he may sooner than later so Cora can get the job

QUOTE (Baines3 @ May 16, 2009 -> 05:36 PM)
If things continue the way they are right now does any one thing Ozzie might get on thin ice?

 

You will see "The Kids Can Play II" before you see Ozzie fired. He will walk away before he gets fired.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 16, 2009 -> 03:57 PM)
Has anyone from the Sox brass ever come out and comment on getting punked by no name pitchers? This is ridiculous. The guy made 2 starts with an ERA of 6 and shuts us down completely.

 

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around, does it make a sound.

 

Could Gavin Floyd pitch well against the Sox offense? That'll spin your wheels for a while.

I do know that it made me happy to hear Hawk essentially b****ing about the fact that we let another young, no name starter look like Cy Young out there. At least someone directly involved with the team is pissed about what all of us have been mad about for years. We always suck against young guys like Ray.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 16, 2009 -> 07:16 PM)
You will see "The Kids Can Play II" before you see Ozzie fired. He will walk away before he gets fired.

I can't wait until this happens. At least if a team is young and doing poorly, it's a bit more fun to watch. You can have hope for the future, for development. But, we have veterans galore and we suck. That makes this s***ty start to the season all that more painful.

At least if a team is young and doing poorly, it's a bit more fun to watch

 

Not necessarily.

Depends on who the younger players are.

If their names are Lillibridge, Nix, Fields, maybe not.

I live in Kansas City. The young players here the last 10 years have not been so fun to watch.

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