SoxFan562004 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I would imagine the USOC isn't thrilled that the top national story this afternoon is the tragic beating death of the 16 year old on the south side. Probably won't be a major factor is Chicago gets it or not, but doesn't put Chicago in the best light. Please note in no way am I minimizing that brutal attack, in fact if the IOC came out and said that was a reason not to award Chicago hopefully it would force some changes, not that I think a scenario like that would play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 12:20 PM) I seem to recall that they split - then they consolidate when it appears that their city is gone. In other words, there's bribes up the ass that gets traded after each vote. That's what I was referring to by "horse-trading". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 So it turns out that the site chicagoansforrio.com wasn't about Chicagoans for Rio at all - it was one Chicagoan, who works in "creative advertising", who wanted to play a game. Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 And yes, my name is Kevin Lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 12:14 PM) I got this info from a pretty solid source, but by word of mouth. There is an initial round of voting, and the results would be announced at 11am Chicago time on Friday from that. Then the horse-trading and second round occur, supposedly resulting in a final vote by 3pm. But, the rule is a vote plurality - it takes as many rounds as needed to get 50% for someone. So I suppose its possible that someone could get over 50% ont he first vote, but apparently that is very rare. Per Wikipedia- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Why didn't South Korea get the bid in 2010 with a 51% 1st round vote result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 12:46 PM) Why didn't South Korea get the bid in 2010 with a 51% 1st round vote result? The numbers on that one don't add up to 100, they are over 100, so that must be a vote total, not a %. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 12:46 PM) Why didn't South Korea get the bid in 2010 with a 51% 1st round vote result? That's not percentage, it's amount of votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 12:46 PM) Why didn't South Korea get the bid in 2010 with a 51% 1st round vote result? It's total votes, not %. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Yes, i am referencing Drudge: 2016 Orders Anti-Bid News Report Cancelled A local TV station that reported on Chicagoans NOT wanting the Olympics has been told NOT to run the report again, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT! The Chicago Olympic Committee told FOX Chicago that its broadcast "would harm Chicago's chances" to be awarded the games. The station's news director ordered staff to hold fire after the report aired once last Thursday morning, claims a source. Chicago, Madrid, Tokyo and Rio are mounting strong bids for the honor to host in 2016. The International Olympic Committee makes its decision on Friday. President Obama will lead the in-person push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 12:14 PM) I got this info from a pretty solid source, but by word of mouth. There is an initial round of voting, and the results would be announced at 11am Chicago time on Friday from that. Then the horse-trading and second round occur, supposedly resulting in a final vote by 3pm. But, the rule is a vote plurality - it takes as many rounds as needed to get 50% for someone. So I suppose its possible that someone could get over 50% ont he first vote, but apparently that is very rare. It looks like they drop the low vote city after each round and then re-vote, until someone breaks that 50%. I would imagine that this means will will have three rounds, or until we get down to two cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I dont think Obama went there so he could come back empty handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 11:37 AM) I dont think Obama went there so he could come back empty handed. That's the question in my mind. Did he go because he thinks he can change voter's minds, or did he go because he knows their minds are made up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 10:53 AM) That's the question in my mind. Did he go because he thinks he can change voter's minds, or did he go because he knows their minds are made up? I think they've made up their minds and picked Chicago, no way they'd let Obama go there only to have them say, "LOL, sucker...we're picking Rio!". Obama is a star right now, for better or worse (depending on who you are), not only to Americans, but to the entire world...and they're capitalizing on that. I thought from the start the only way Chicago had a chance was for Obama to win the presidency, which he did. I just couldn't see them picking a city with massive traffic congestion issues that never get fixed and a soaring major crime/murder rate without some push from a very powerful figure...like a US President from Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Rio's murder rate makes Chicago look like a hippie commune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 10:37 AM) I dont think Obama went there so he could come back empty handed. Its possible. If anyone could figure out the corrupt IOC, its the corrupt Rich Daley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 10:53 AM) That's the question in my mind. Did he go because he thinks he can change voter's minds, or did he go because he knows their minds are made up? In between. He had operatives ask around with IOC members, to make sure they had a very good chance, and then disseminated information that he'd go. You cannot know 100% for sure ahead of time - this is the IOC we are talking about here - but I am sure he got a very good indication that the chances were very good that they'd get it if he went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 05:13 PM) Its possible. If anyone could figure out the corrupt IOC, its the corrupt Rich Daley. Seriously, it's like you guys don't realize Rio is in the discussion. I assure you our corrupt system would be a shining beacon of gov't transparency there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 11:18 AM) Seriously, it's like you guys don't realize Rio is in the discussion. I assure you our corrupt system would be a shining beacon of gov't transparency there. Do you really think they have the heavy hitters that the Daley's have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 04:34 PM) Do you really think they have the heavy hitters that the Daley's have? I think Chicago will win, but my point is, the naysayers saying "Well i'm sure them seeing this brutal beating" "yeah, I hope it goes to rio instead of our corrupt city" ... is rio is way, way worse. But I do think Rio has some heavy hitters coming to bat, it's more than brazil, it's South America that wants this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 11:49 AM) I think Chicago will win, but my point is, the naysayers saying "Well i'm sure them seeing this brutal beating" "yeah, I hope it goes to rio instead of our corrupt city" ... is rio is way, way worse. But I do think Rio has some heavy hitters coming to bat, it's more than brazil, it's South America that wants this. I'm not even sure Chicago will win. To be honest, I don't know what to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 11:11 AM) Rio's murder rate makes Chicago look like a hippie commune. I don't live there, so that means a load of nothing in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 WOW! White House smacks down Fox News over its mostly anti-Olympic coverage. Last night Fox News continued its disregard for the facts in an attempt to smear the Administration's efforts to win the Olympics for the United States. In the past, hosting the Olympics has been a source of pride and unity for the country, but once again Fox News' Glenn Beck program has shown that nothing is worthy of respect if it can be used as part of a partisan attack to boost ratings...... Fact checks are at the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 01:43 PM) WOW! White House smacks down Fox News over its mostly anti-Olympic coverage. Let's please try not to busterize this thread any more than it has been. Seriously, the battle between the White House and Fox News is pure politics in motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) This material is borderline for this forum. Just a general warning/request, please don't get too carried away with politics. We're fine for now, since the topic involves politics to begin with, but any more detailed/heated arguments and I'll have to split posts and/or lock the thread. edit: NSS already covered it. Edited September 30, 2009 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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