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White Sox sign Andruw Jones

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His OPS was right around .900 when his hamstring started bothering him last year (about 250 PA into his season, beginning of August), it turned out to be a strain and he spent 15 days on the DL because of it. He was having a hell of a year as a part time player before his hamstring started acting up.

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QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 08:00 PM)
As long as they're not planning on plugging him into the lineup. That'd be disappointing to say the least.

 

 

I guess as a reserve/bench player it's ok. I am guessing he can still field above average. Still looking for that big splash when we sign a lead off hitter

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 08:38 PM)
His OPS was right around .900 when his hamstring started bothering him last year (about 250 PA into his season, beginning of August), it turned out to be a strain and he spent 15 days on the DL because of it. He was having a hell of a year as a part time player before his hamstring started acting up.

 

 

I was thinking he had shown progress with Texas and was rebounding from that horrendous LA expereince

I like it. He's still "young" enough to have a decent year in him. I don't know how good he is at 1B defensively (probably not very) but he could be an adequate backup for sure. He can sure provide some power.

I gotta admit, Kotsay, Jones, Vizquel, Blanco/Flowers/FA Catcher is a good bench...but who's the speed guy?

My gut reaction is to disagree with the general concesus of this being a positive move. First of all Jones has a rep as player who dogs it, just ask Bobby Cox. He was almost certainly a roider who hasn't been able to cut the mustard lately. Now, he may be hungry and wanting to prove a point and could have a great year, but personally, I doubt it. I hope the concensus is right and I'm proven wrong, but this is the way I see this move. Low risk, lower reward.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 02:52 PM)
My gut reaction is to disagree with the general concesus of this being a positive move. First of all Jones has a rep as player who dogs it, just ask Bobby Cox. He was almost certainly a roider who hasn't been able to cut the mustard lately. Now, he may be hungry and wanting to prove a point and could have a great year, but personally, I doubt it. I hope the concensus is right and I'm proven wrong, but this is the way I see this move. Low risk, lower reward.

 

I am kinda suprised that there is this much positive vibe from this one. When I told you guys about the other signing last week I did say you would be less excited about it, but it seems most people like it. Kinda funny that the very first guy to guess who it was last week was right and then people guessed a ton of other names!!

Great signing for the bench. He offers a different skill-set the complements Vizquel and Kotsay well. This really might give Lillibridge an edge over Nix if they decide to go five deep with the bench.

 

Also, I'm really interested what KW is planning for that final outfield spot. Hopefully they aren't bringing in another veteran outfielder because they think Jordan Danks has a chance of being ready opening day. That would be a huge disaster. KW still needs to get a legit starting outfielder so that Jones and Kotsay remain on the bench, where they have value.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 02:55 PM)
I am kinda suprised that there is this much positive vibe from this one. When I told you guys about the other signing last week I did say you would be less excited about it, but it seems most people like it. Kinda funny that the very first guy to guess who it was last week was right and then people guessed a ton of other names!!

 

Vizquel is a pro's pro. That in itself makes it a better signing than this one. Age taken into consideration as I comment.

I don't have the time to look it up, but how did Jones do against LHP last year?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 02:55 PM)
Great signing for the bench. He offers a different skill-set the complements Vizquel and Kotsay well. This really might give Lillibridge an edge over Nix if they decide to go five deep with the bench.

 

Also, I'm really interested what KW is planning for that final outfield spot. Hopefully they aren't bringing in another veteran outfielder because they think Jordan Danks has a chance of being ready opening day. That would be a huge disaster. KW still needs to get a legit starting outfielder so that Jones and Kotsay remain on the bench, where they have value.

This is probably the reason why most people are positive....it is based on the IF he is a bench player. IF he is the starting LFer....no one will be happy. Maybe they are still looking into Coco Crisp for LF and leadoff...who knows. If they do that...they better sign a power hitter for DH..or Matsui at the worst.

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 02:57 PM)
I don't have the time to look it up, but how did Jones do against LHP last year?

 

.218/.367/.395 in 150 plate appearances.

 

He hit .210/.287/.506 against righties in 181 plate appearances.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 03:00 PM)
.218/.367/.395 in 150 plate appearances.

 

He hit .210/.287/.506 against righties in 181 plate appearances.

 

Walker will fix him.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 03:02 PM)
Walker will fix him.

Andruw Jones is king of the lift and pull....no fixing needed.

QUOTE (BFirebird @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 03:03 PM)
Andruw Jones is king of the lift and pull....no fixing needed.

 

Perfect! I stand corrected.

Does our bench have any speed at all? Are we gonna be even slower this coming season?

I wouldn't discount this guy starting for us. If he has a good spring can't you see it?

QUOTE (YASNY @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 02:52 PM)
My gut reaction is to disagree with the general concesus of this being a positive move. First of all Jones has a rep as player who dogs it, just ask Bobby Cox. He was almost certainly a roider who hasn't been able to cut the mustard lately. Now, he may be hungry and wanting to prove a point and could have a great year, but personally, I doubt it. I hope the concensus is right and I'm proven wrong, but this is the way I see this move. Low risk, lower reward.

 

If he is, you cut him. No loss.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 10:05 PM)
Does our bench have any speed at all? Are we gonna be even slower this coming season?

I wouldn't discount this guy starting for us. If he has a good spring can't you see it?

 

If he has a good spring, why not see what he can do? We're not talking Omar Vizquel here, where it's beyond obvious the player shouldn't be starting. With that said, I highly doubt he'll be starting in the outfield. And for everyone suggesting the rotating DH next year, I hope we don't do that. It looks better on paper than it actually is, especially when you get egos involved.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 02:55 PM)
I am kinda suprised that there is this much positive vibe from this one. When I told you guys about the other signing last week I did say you would be less excited about it, but it seems most people like it. Kinda funny that the very first guy to guess who it was last week was right and then people guessed a ton of other names!!

 

It doesn't "excite" me more-or-less the other posters personally, but I don't mind it at all. And yes he gets his props. Nice call iamshack. :)

 

BTW.. the only thing that "shocked" me is he is a Bora$ client we just signed, doesn't matter how cheap.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 03:07 PM)
If he is, you cut him. No loss.

 

Low risk, lower reward. Like I said.

All you can really say to this is ok

QUOTE (kev211 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 03:11 PM)
All you can really say to this is ok

 

I was thinking more like "oh no!"

QUOTE (YASNY @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 02:52 PM)
My gut reaction is to disagree with the general concesus of this being a positive move. First of all Jones has a rep as player who dogs it, just ask Bobby Cox. He was almost certainly a roider who hasn't been able to cut the mustard lately. Now, he may be hungry and wanting to prove a point and could have a great year, but personally, I doubt it. I hope the concensus is right and I'm proven wrong, but this is the way I see this move. Low risk, lower reward.

 

I'll take any player that "dogs" his way to 10 GG's.

 

Low risk lower reward doesn't make any sense.

QUOTE (BFirebird @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 02:35 PM)
That lineup is still looking pretty weak at the present moment.

Well yeah, most lineups with 7 guys would look pretty weak.

 

We are still missing two guys.

 

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