February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 04:30 PM) It is a good sign for baseball's smaller markets. I also think it is bad for baseball in one way. One of the best talents is in one of the smallest TV markets. Minneapolis is not one of the league's smallest TV markets. This misconception is ridiculous and is based on the Twins owners pinching pennies. With a new ballpark and plenty of new revenue coming in from it, they have no excuse not to spend money on the team now.
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 03:51 PM) As much as I will hate to see him so much over the next 10 years, this is good for baseball. Good for you Joe Mauer.
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 09:39 PM) I like this move for baseball, hate it for the Sox. Then again maybe this puts Minn even more firmly entrenched in cheapskate mode -- meanwhile the Yankees are kept away from landing an All-World bat at the most difficult position to fill in that way. No doubt they'll be strong but the thought of them with this guy at C gets em from very good to extremely good. Edited February 2, 201016 yr by Princess Dye
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 04:38 PM) Is there really that much more room for revenue growth in NY/Bos? Good point and it makes the Twins a better draw on the road.
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (Felix @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 07:53 PM) Minneapolis is not one of the league's smallest TV markets. This misconception is ridiculous and is based on the Twins owners pinching pennies. With a new ballpark and plenty of new revenue coming in from it, they have no excuse not to spend money on the team now. I thought (And I could be wrong) that the area was huge for winter viewers, small for summer.
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 06:57 PM) They should shift Mauer to 3B within a year or two if they are smart. Good idea Hawk, or maybe left field . . .
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) Good idea Hawk, or maybe left field . . . Fisk was a lot older than Mauer when Hawk did that. Plus, Fisk was really good but Mauer is um, a lot better.
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 11:12 PM) Fisk was a lot older than Mauer when Hawk did that. Plus, Fisk was really good but Mauer is um, a lot better. Mauer is at least as athletic as Fisk was at a similar age, and has had fewer lower body injury issues. And yet, Fisk was a catcher until his late 30's. Moving Mauer makes no sense, until you are forced to.
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 2, 2010 -> 07:51 AM) Mauer is at least as athletic as Fisk was at a similar age, and has had fewer lower body injury issues. And yet, Fisk was a catcher until his late 30's. Moving Mauer makes no sense, until you are forced to. Mauer has had documented health problems for a long time now.
February 2, 201016 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 2, 2010 -> 07:54 AM) Mauer has had documented health problems for a long time now. That's why I specified lower body issues that are specific to catching. Fisk had knee issues. As I recall, Mauer has had back and wrist issues. Both those effect catching of course, but they'd also be serious detriments, if not more so, at 3B or 1B. That's the point I was making. Moving Mauer makes sense if they think catching, specifically, is causing health issues. Otherwise, at this stage in his career, it doesn't.
March 4, 201016 yr http://deadspin.com/5485780/joe-mauers-ima...ot-of-is-to-dot Sounds like they may not be as close as first reported. (This is the deadspin link, but there's a link to the newspaper they're basing their article off of.)
March 6, 201016 yr From http://www.twinkietown.com/ "My source says 'I am not a media member and I don't run a website, but I have a family member with the Twins.' ... The deal will be signed by Sunday. It will be an eight-year deal with an average salary of $22 million dollars per year. It will end up being $165 - $175 million for eight years. It will also include the ninth and tenth year as options with a salary of $23 to $25 million a year. The numbers are set but the length was the holdup, and it has been solved." crazy
March 6, 201016 yr QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 6, 2010 -> 10:51 AM) no catcher is worth 22 mil. If first baseman Mark Teixeira who has no where near the offensive potential of Joe Mauer is worth $22.5M then I'm fairly certain Joe Mauer and at least 4 years at the catcher position (probably much more) is worth at least $22M.
March 6, 201016 yr Joe Mauer is worth every penny the Twins pay him. He is a great leader, catcher, hitter and will keep Twins fans interested.
March 6, 201016 yr QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 6, 2010 -> 11:51 AM) no catcher is worth 22 mil. I'd be willing to give Mauer 25 per year for 10 years. He's one of the games top 5 hitters, while playing good/great defense at the scarcest position.
March 6, 201016 yr QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 6, 2010 -> 10:51 AM) no catcher is worth 22 mil. Joe Mauer's value on the open market is much higher than 22 million per year. That's how good he is. The Twins would be smart to lock him up long term. Edited March 6, 201016 yr by Felix
March 6, 201016 yr No player in the league, not even the best should get 10 year contracts. Why would you commit to such a long term thing when you just cant predict anyone's future that length of time. Thats why the Soriano contract was so stupid. Good luck if you want to make a 10 year deal with Mauers back
March 6, 201016 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 2, 2010 -> 08:40 AM) That's why I specified lower body issues that are specific to catching. Fisk had knee issues. As I recall, Mauer has had back and wrist issues. Both those effect catching of course, but they'd also be serious detriments, if not more so, at 3B or 1B. That's the point I was making. Moving Mauer makes sense if they think catching, specifically, is causing health issues. Otherwise, at this stage in his career, it doesn't. IIRC Mauer had knee problems the first couple of years he was in the majors edit: http://www.startribune.com/sports/84420522.html Mauer's injury history. He had a knee injury as a rookie, a quadriceps injury in 2007 and a puzzling lower-back injury that kept him out last April. He also had surgery to remove a kidney obstruction last offseason Edited March 6, 201016 yr by KyYlE23
March 6, 201016 yr Here is everything that has ever gone wrong with Joe Mauer courtesy of baseballinjurytool.com DateOn DateOff Transaction # Days Side Body Part Injury Severity-Desc Surgery Date Reaggrevation 10/9/2009 10/9/2009 DTD 0 Hip Soreness Hip Flexor 6/18/2009 6/19/2009 DTD 1 General Medical Infectious Disease Flu 5/31/2009 6/2/2009 DTD 2 Right Ankle Contusion Foul Ball 3/27/2009 5/1/2009 15-DL 35 Right Low Back Sprain SI 2/15/2009 3/27/2009 Camp 40 Right Low Back Sprain SI 1/2/2009 1/2/2009 Off 0 Abdomen Surgery Kidney Obstruction 1/2/2009 8/12/2008 8/13/2008 DTD 1 Neck Spasms 9/27/2007 9/27/2007 DTD 0 Abdomen Hernia bothering since mid season 8/26/2007 9/4/2007 DTD 9 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring 8/22/2007 8/23/2007 DTD 1 Ankle Contusion 5/6/2007 6/8/2007 15-DL 33 Left Thigh Strain Quad 3/22/2007 3/31/2007 DTD 9 Left Leg Stress Fracture 7/2/2006 7/3/2006 DTD 1 General Medical Illness Stomach 4/27/2006 4/29/2006 DTD 2 Left Thigh Soreness Hamstring 9/10/2005 9/12/2005 DTD 2 Right Shoulder Contusion Foul Tip 6/3/2005 6/4/2005 DTD 1 Right Groin Soreness Yes 5/25/2005 5/29/2005 DTD 4 Right Groin Soreness 3/7/2005 3/10/2005 Camp 3 Left Knee Soreness 7/16/2004 10/10/2004 60-DL 86 Left Knee Soreness Yes 8/12/2004 8/12/2004 On-Alr 0 Abdomen Surgery Kidney Stone 4/7/2004 6/1/2004 15-DL 55 Left Knee Surgery Medial Meniscus 4/8/2004 9/2/2002 9/2/2002 Minors 0 Groin Surgery Hernia 9/2/2002 3/15/2005 Camp Face Surgery Oral surgery on wisdom teeth
March 7, 201016 yr He's had a lot of minor injuries including 4 stints to the DL. I'll give him some slack with the wisdom teeth though, haha.
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