The Big 12 is not going to look at TCU. The four Texas schools don't want TCU to gain traction as a 5th BCS school in the state. Every school in the conference recruits in football against TCU. They won't bring them into the fold.

I'd love love love memphis for basketball entered into the Big 12.

 

But yeah, Big 12 once again makes a pact that won't last. It's not gonna be around past this decade.

I'd love love love memphis for basketball entered into the Big 12.

 

But yeah, Big 12 once again makes a pact that won't last. It's not gonna be around past this decade.

 

Beebe's dumbass said that the Big 12 won't be expanding teams.

 

Basically we have a group of teams that doesn't want to be together, has no TV contract set in stone, and only has one teams interest at heart. There's no chance this conference will be around past 2 years.

 

The ONLY reason the league was saved is because UT got everything they wanted. If the Pac 10 offers Texas Tech or the Big 10 offers Mizzou, it's over.

I've been reading that the new deals will tie universities in financially to an extent that will make it impossible to leave without losing a LOT.

Beebe's dumbass said that the Big 12 won't be expanding teams.

 

Basically we have a group of teams that doesn't want to be together, has no TV contract set in stone, and only has one teams interest at heart. There's no chance this conference will be around past 2 years.

 

The ONLY reason the league was saved is because UT got everything they wanted. If the Pac 10 offers Texas Tech or the Big 10 offers Mizzou, it's over.

 

Well, the purported bump in money is still substantial.

Boone Pickens might be the only person associated with the possibly departing teams that said "I don't want to go off and leave Iowa State, Kansas State or Baylor"

Don't forget that we are now rid of Greg McDermott. Hope lives.

Fair. Iowa State is a bigger program than their recent success, but they would have a tough time starting up in a 10 team league with no easy out.

 

Boone Pickens might be the only person associated with the possibly departing teams that said "I don't want to go off and leave Iowa State, Kansas State or Baylor"

I saw that video. He hates Missouri, which actually makes me happy. Hopefully we can finally leave this awful conference in the coming years.

Fair. Iowa State is a bigger program than their recent success, but they would have a tough time starting up in a 10 team league with no easy out.

 

 

I saw that video. He hates Missouri, which actually makes me happy. Hopefully we can finally leave this awful conference in the coming years.

 

Very true. Still a program with two Big 12 titles and a final ranking of #3 in the past decade. It's still a tough road.

 

Mizzou really f***ed up the whole Big Ten thing though.

The best part is that only the 20M group of UT, OU, and A&M is guaranteed money. Beebe's made up numbers could really end up biting the other 9 teams in the butt. But who could do anything about it? Not the 5 teams that were just thrilled to be a part of it, or the 3 teams that were put on a pedestal above the rest. At the very least, TTU's chancellor apparently talked UT and OU into not accepting the Nebraska/Colorado buyout money.

The best part is that only the 20M group of UT, OU, and A&M is guaranteed money. Beebe's made up numbers could really end up biting the other 9 teams in the butt. But who could do anything about it? Not the 5 teams that were just thrilled to be a part of it, or the 3 teams that were put on a pedestal above the rest. At the very least, TTU's chancellor apparently talked UT and OU into not accepting the Nebraska/Colorado buyout money.

 

An 18 year contract sure seems long.

 

Either way, ISU still stands to nearly double its conference revenue, which means they can get off of state money and be self sufficient.

An 18 year contract sure seems long.

 

Either way, ISU still stands to nearly double its conference revenue, which means they can get off of state money and be self sufficient.

Wait, what? When I was at ISU, the athletic department had to be self-sustaining financially, not drawing any money it couldn't produce. Is that not the case anymore?

 

Also, maybe the added money will mean ISU can get baseball back again.

 

TTU's chancellor Kent Hance apparently got UT, OU, and A&M to give up their "right" to the NU/CU exit funds. The funds will now be distributed evenly in the conference. These funds were apparently part of the 20M guaranteed to UT, OU, and A&M a year, so ......

Pac 10 commish Larry Scott wanted to substitute Kansas for Okie State at the last minute, no wonder they supported the Big 12 deal. Looks like Texas Tech was the lone screwee.

Wait, what? When I was at ISU, the athletic department had to be self-sustaining financially, not drawing any money it couldn't produce. Is that not the case anymore?

 

Also, maybe the added money will mean ISU can get baseball back again.

 

It hasn't been as long as I've known. They've moved to being fully self sufficient. This will really help.

 

I really doubt baseball comes back.

 

TTU's chancellor Kent Hance apparently got UT, OU, and A&M to give up their "right" to the NU/CU exit funds. The funds will now be distributed evenly in the conference. These funds were apparently part of the 20M guaranteed to UT, OU, and A&M a year, so ......

 

Woo! Money.

Beebe's dumbass said that the Big 12 won't be expanding teams.

 

Basically we have a group of teams that doesn't want to be together, has no TV contract set in stone, and only has one teams interest at heart. There's no chance this conference will be around past 2 years.

 

The ONLY reason the league was saved is because UT got everything they wanted. If the Pac 10 offers Texas Tech or the Big 10 offers Mizzou, it's over.

Why doesn't OU have more power? Why does Texas control all. It isn't like they are some small school. They have an exceptional football program (oen of the best in college football history) and recently a pretty strong basketball program.

Why doesn't OU have more power? Why does Texas control all. It isn't like they are some small school. They have an exceptional football program (oen of the best in college football history) and recently a pretty strong basketball program.

 

If OU loses a conference with Texas schools, they lose their entire recruiting base. They would do anything to stay with UT specifically.

Why doesn't OU have more power? Why does Texas control all. It isn't like they are some small school. They have an exceptional football program (oen of the best in college football history) and recently a pretty strong basketball program.

 

Texas' market is huge. The four texas schools? Very huge.

Now Jerry Jones, who very well could be one of the people that helped save the Big 12, wants Notre Dame and Arkansas.

 

I certainly wouldn't hate it. ND would obviously have a much easier road to a BCS berth, hinging largely on the fact that they stop sucking, they would have to go through a division that would be ISU, Mizzou, Kansas, Kansas State and one of OU/OSU/Ark.

 

 

Pac 10 Invites Utah as 12th team

Well, now they could have their chance to play for a title

Now Jerry Jones, who very well could be one of the people that helped save the Big 12, wants Notre Dame and Arkansas.

 

I certainly wouldn't hate it. ND would obviously have a much easier road to a BCS berth, hinging largely on the fact that they stop sucking, they would have to go through a division that would be ISU, Mizzou, Kansas, Kansas State and one of OU/OSU/Ark.

Notre Dame seems pretty comparable to Nebraska. Fallen superpower. They wouldn't run the division.

Notre Dame seems pretty comparable to Nebraska. Fallen superpower. They wouldn't run the division.

 

I think that's a fair comparison, although Nebraska has made progress in building itself back up recently, and I think joining the Big 10 will only aid that in football. I also think joining a league would do Notre Dame football a lot of good.

Notre Dame seems pretty comparable to Nebraska. Fallen superpower. They wouldn't run the division.

 

Nebraska is going to be pretty damn good real soon though.

Notre Dame seems pretty comparable to Nebraska. Fallen superpower. They wouldn't run the division.

Though Notre Dame is stronger in basketball, and is worlds better academically.

 

Not that any seems to give a s*** about the academics in all this.

 

Though Notre Dame is stronger in basketball, and is worlds better academically.

 

Not that any seems to give a s*** about the academics in all this.

I don't get it. Notre Dame's academic standards really aren't that amazing. I might offend some ND grads here, but they are the midwest version of USC. It is an expensive school but much easier to get into than some of the good and even decent public institutions. And there MBA program in terms of the grades/etc you need to get in is a joke.

Geographically Arkansas would fit but I have no idea why Arkansas would even entertain the idea of leaving the SEC for the Big 12.