February 19, 201016 yr Friday is the new Sunday. If we have $6M then not only did Kenny lie about not being able to afford Matsui or Johnson, but he way overstated how broke the Sox were. And there's no f***ing way Damon was going to bring in more revenue than Mr. Japanese Baseball Hideki Matsui.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (G&T @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) So he's like every other player? The things i could do with 6 million bucks. Like that extra one is really going to take him the extra mile.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:29 PM) Friday is the new Sunday. If we have $6M then not only did Kenny lie about not being able to afford Matsui or Johnson, but he way overstated how broke the Sox were. And there's no f***ing way Damon was going to bring in more revenue than Mr. Japanese Baseball Hideki Matsui. Most likely KW was going to use the money for a midseason acquisition to acquire Damon thats all.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 09:24 PM) The rumors that Damon is more about the money then winning appears to be correct. probably true, but it's not like we offer a significantly better chance at winning than detroit does.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (thedoctor @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:30 PM) probably true, but it's not like we offer a significantly better chance at winning than detroit does. I disagree. We offer a far better chance at winning then Detroit does. Hell, even if they get Damon, we still do.
February 19, 201016 yr This really sucks. Gonna be an interesting Sunday for KW to speak about this....
February 19, 201016 yr So this was all much ado about nothing. What a letdown. Until Damon officially signs with Detroit, I'll still hold out a little hope that something could happen... but this pretty much seals the deal.
February 19, 201016 yr Whatever. If he signs with Detroit, I hope we drill him in his first AB against us. Ha!
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) This really sucks. Gonna be an interesting Sunday for KW to speak about this.... He will say we feel we can win with what we have. We are always looking to improve the ballclub, but the numbers weren't there. This is the same guy who went to battle with Josh Fields and Dewayne Wise as starters last year.
February 19, 201016 yr Back to b****ing about how terrible the DH sitiuation is, i guess. At least, KW made an honest attempt here.
February 19, 201016 yr I wanted Damon I thought he would be a nice addition, but this is ridicolous. There was virtually no market for this guy and spring training starts in less than 48 hours and Boras is dragging this thing out doing lord knows what for some reason. The fact that he hasnt signed given 3 interested teams in the last two weeks is ridicolous. I really believe JR now when he says dealing with Boras is a pain because he simply drags things out. How would you like if you got your college acceptance letter two days before the 1st day of class. This is a joke.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) Friday is the new Sunday. If we have $6M then not only did Kenny lie about not being able to afford Matsui or Johnson, but he way overstated how broke the Sox were. And there's no f***ing way Damon was going to bring in more revenue than Mr. Japanese Baseball Hideki Matsui. KW said there is always another move to make. There was no money for Matsui or Johnson because they are strictly DH's and don't fit into the philosophy the Sox are going with this year. Damon would still have allowed them to rotate players between the DH, OF and 1B. This would not be possible with the other two. THE WHITE SOX ARE NOT GOING TO SIGN A DH ONLY PLAYER.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:35 PM) KW said there is always another move to make. There was no money for Matsui or Johnson because they are strictly DH's and don't fit into the philosophy the Sox are going with this year. Damon would still have allowed them to rotate players between the DH, OF and 1B. This would not be possible with the other two. THE WHITE SOX ARE NOT GOING TO SIGN A DH ONLY PLAYER. 100% correct, I dont think we will ever see another slow, lift and pull, all or nothing slugger filling the DH position for this team for a very long time Edited February 19, 201016 yr by joeynach
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (jphat007 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) KW is f***ing playing games with Boras. Trying to show that he's the boss. He never f***ing talks about offers. Smart move by Kenny. He's tired of Boras trying to make the Sox bid against themselves. Apparantly the reported 2 year $14M offer from the Tigers was BS. Boras had the Sox' $6M offer in his pocket and he was trying to squeeze more out of the Tigers while at the same time hoping the Sox would up their offer. Now with KW publicly declaring his offer is off the table, Damon and the Tigers both know that there is no other offer. If Damon really wants to play for the Sox for $6M, he'll have to call KW and commit himself. If not, he's stuck playing in detroit for whatever their last offer was, which apparently he wasn't too thrilled about in the first place.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:38 PM) Smart move by Kenny. He's tired of Boras trying to make the Sox bid against themselves. Apparantly the reported 2 year $14M offer from the Tigers was BS. Boras had the Sox' $6M offer in his pocket and he was trying to squeeze more out of the Tigers while at the same time hoping the Sox would up their offer. Now with KW publicly declaring his offer is off the table, Damon and the Tigers both know that there is no other offer. If Damon really wants to play for the Sox for $6M, he'll have to call KW and commit himself. If not, he's stuck playing in detroit for whatever their last offer was, which apparently he wasn't too thrilled about in the first place. +1
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:31 PM) This really sucks. Gonna be an interesting Sunday for KW to speak about this.... Especially after Damon calls and accepts KW's terms.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:38 PM) Smart move by Kenny. He's tired of Boras trying to make the Sox bid against themselves. Apparantly the reported 2 year $14M offer from the Tigers was BS. Boras had the Sox' $6M offer in his pocket and he was trying to squeeze more out of the Tigers while at the same time hoping the Sox would up their offer. Now with KW publicly declaring his offer is off the table, Damon and the Tigers both know that there is no other offer. If Damon really wants to play for the Sox for $6M, he'll have to call KW and commit himself. If not, he's stuck playing in detroit for whatever their last offer was, which apparently he wasn't too thrilled about in the first place. I totally agree. Why else would Kenny speak on Friday (and uncharacteristically say so much about the offer) just one day after saying he wouldn't speak to Sunday?
February 19, 201016 yr Author I hope the tigers offer no more than 4 mil. If he has to sign with the tigers for less than 6 mil I'm going to laugh my arse off... Edited February 19, 201016 yr by Chet Kincaid
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:39 PM) Especially after Damon calls and accepts KW's terms. I dont think thats the way it works, the agent works for the player. He tell Boras and boras makes the call.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:39 PM) Especially after Damon calls and accepts KW's terms. I like the optimism.. hopefully your right. Ima head out though so hopefully by tonight or tomorrow or even Sunday, theres something different.
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:38 PM) Smart move by Kenny. He's tired of Boras trying to make the Sox bid against themselves. Apparantly the reported 2 year $14M offer from the Tigers was BS. Boras had the Sox' $6M offer in his pocket and he was trying to squeeze more out of the Tigers while at the same time hoping the Sox would up their offer. Now with KW publicly declaring his offer is off the table, Damon and the Tigers both know that there is no other offer. If Damon really wants to play for the Sox for $6M, he'll have to call KW and commit himself. If not, he's stuck playing in detroit for whatever their last offer was, which apparently he wasn't too thrilled about in the first place. I agree here. There was probably a Friday deadline to accept the deal, and if accepted, he could take a physical and be announced Sunday. Boras said he wanted more time and KW pulled the offer. And now with the offer stated publicly, the Tigers will probably give him 24 hours to accept whatever deal they have on the table before they drop it further.
February 19, 201016 yr "ESPN.com's Buster Olney hears that Scott Boras wants two things from the Tigers. First, he's asking them to remove all deferred money from the one-year $7MM deal they have offered. Second, he wants the Tigers to add a second year (Twitter links)."
February 19, 201016 yr QUOTE (joeynach @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:41 PM) I dont think thats the way it works, the agent works for the player. He tell Boras and boras makes the call. Not true. The player can initiate talks with the team without representation. The team cannot circumvent the agent because that would be a violation of the CBA. The ARod situation is the prime example.
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