flavum Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Yes, Viciedo will be at 1B in Charlotte. Ramon Castro got beaned and left the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I like Retherford, but i don't want to lose Nix for nothing. I really don't think he'd clear waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 05:19 PM) I like Retherford, but i don't want to lose Nix for nothing. I really don't think he'd clear waivers. He wouldn't. You'd probably have to pull off some sort of junk for junk type trade if you wanted Retherford on the team and wanted to get something for Nix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Not that it's really worth trying, but why wouldn't Nix clear waivers? It's not like he's an uber-talented player who hasn't lived up to his potential - he got into BA's top 100 prospects one time, and it was #94 in 2004. He's pretty mediocre, and I can't see why another team would suddenly take a chance on him. As I recall, the Rockies DFA'ed him and no team claimed him, and then the Sox signed him to a contract. The only real value Nix has is as a platoon partner, and I seem to recall that his minor league career indicates that last year may have been a fluke. And it's probably not that they are trying to save time on Retherford's arbitration clock...it just might be that the club feels that Nix is more qualified to be a backup infielder than Retherford, that Retherford needs some more seasoning and they want to see him play a few games at more positions to determine what he can and can't play in games that don't really matter, and perhaps they are hoping Nix can turn into a player who looks like he could be a .260/.340/.410 everyday 2B with a great glove so they can trade him for a decent prospect or package up for a good player during the season or over the offseason. So maybe, in some small way, it has to do with their fear of losing Nix over the waiver wire, but really, I think there is quite a bit more to the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) That could also be Cabrera trying to use Cooper's style of pitching and it not working ala Nick Massett. He had lost velocity for a couple of years now. His K rate really dropped and he makes MacDougal's control look like Greg Maddux. He was a longshot that didn't pan out. No harm, no foul. It was worth giving him a uniform to see if they could find a way they could get anything to fall into place. There's just nothing to work with anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 01:45 PM) Yeah, the Sox want another IF, not a 5th OF. De Aza will start in Charlotte, and be called up if Kotsay or Jones are injured. No, I don't think it does. It means the player is free to sign wherever since they are not on the 40-man or under current contract... but it does not rule out the Sox signing them as minor leaguers who are not on the 40. At least, I think that is how it works. It doesn't, but didn't they sign minor league contracts? If they were willing to play in Charlotte and the Sox wanted to continue with them, I don't think they would have been released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 06:28 PM) Not that it's really worth trying, but why wouldn't Nix clear waivers? It's not like he's an uber-talented player who hasn't lived up to his potential - he got into BA's top 100 prospects one time, and it was #94 in 2004. He's pretty mediocre, and I can't see why another team would suddenly take a chance on him. As I recall, the Rockies DFA'ed him and no team claimed him, and then the Sox signed him to a contract. The only real value Nix has is as a platoon partner, and I seem to recall that his minor league career indicates that last year may have been a fluke. And it's probably not that they are trying to save time on Retherford's arbitration clock...it just might be that the club feels that Nix is more qualified to be a backup infielder than Retherford, that Retherford needs some more seasoning and they want to see him play a few games at more positions to determine what he can and can't play in games that don't really matter, and perhaps they are hoping Nix can turn into a player who looks like he could be a .260/.340/.410 everyday 2B with a great glove so they can trade him for a decent prospect or package up for a good player during the season or over the offseason. So maybe, in some small way, it has to do with their fear of losing Nix over the waiver wire, but really, I think there is quite a bit more to the equation. Given that his future is likely that of a utilityman I believe this is the last thing on their minds. I really think the Sox see something in Nix, there's a reason why they jumped all over him at the end of October last year and signed him to a guaranteed major league deal after he was released by the Rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 06:39 PM) He had lost velocity for a couple of years now. His K rate really dropped and he makes MacDougal's control look like Greg Maddux. He was a longshot that didn't pan out. No harm, no foul. It was worth giving him a uniform to see if they could find a way they could get anything to fall into place. There's just nothing to work with anymore. http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.aspx?pla...=P&pitch=FA That right there is a noticeable decline in velocity over a 3 year time period. His average fastball velocity since '05: 2005: 96.2 2006: 94.8 2007: 94.3 2008: 92.6 2009: 90.9 Same goes for his offspeed pitches which are down across the board since the middle part of the decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 06:43 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.aspx?pla...=P&pitch=FA That right there is a noticeable decline in velocity over a 3 year time period. His average fastball velocity since '05: 2005: 96.2 2006: 94.8 2007: 94.3 2008: 92.6 2009: 90.9 Same goes for his offspeed pitches which are down across the board since the middle part of the decade. I had no idea that he had fallen off that much. Without the big fastball, the guy is worthless. I wouldn't have been nearly as interested in the guy if I would have known he was only hitting 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 06:41 PM) Given that his future is likely that of a utilityman I believe this is the last thing on their minds. I know. I tried to make it seem like a ridiculous plausibility. He's not Gordon Beckham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 when 100%, how fast is peavys fastball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Mar 18, 2010 -> 03:32 PM) when 100%, how fast is peavys fastball? 95-96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Nice article on Quentin with some Ozzie quotes. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=mlb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I hate that Ozzie always says things like "Give me 30 stolen bases" without ever adding "and don't get thrown out". Q's hitting 50 HR this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 18, 2010 -> 03:38 PM) 95-96 yea thats what i had thought but i remember he only topped out at about 92 ofr us last yr. i guess because the injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 18, 2010 -> 02:08 PM) I hate that Ozzie always says things like "Give me 30 stolen bases" without ever adding "and don't get thrown out". Q's hitting 50 HR this year. I like it. I was worried this week when he said his surgically repaired left shoulder was sore, but then he went out and stroked 2 doubles, albeit off russ ortiz, but still. Edited March 18, 2010 by The Ginger Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 when 100%, how fast is peavys fastball? And with excellent control, movement, and two other plus pitches compared to Cabrera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 Jones and Mark Kotsay were going to make up the designated hitter-by-committee that earned Guillen a lot of criticism from Williams during the offseason. Through Thursday, Jones was hitting .400 with a home run and seven RBI, and Kotsay was hitting .391 with five walks and a .500 on-base percentage. By the way, they each had three stolen bases, leading the team. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-sox19.article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Mar 19, 2010 -> 01:28 AM) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-sox19.article EDIT: I am an idiot. Edited March 19, 2010 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Looks like today's line-up is a preview of the opening day line-up. Minus Danks pitching of course... Pierre Beckham Quentin Konerko Pierzynski Rios Kotsay Teahen Ramirez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Does anyone know where I can watch this for free online? (Broke ass) Out of towner here without cable =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Alex Rios was scratched for today's game. De Aza starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 19, 2010 -> 02:11 PM) Alex Rios was scratched for today's game. De Aza starts. por qua? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Quad injury he's been dealing with. Rios played in a minor league simulated game instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 Game thread anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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