December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (TheCut87 @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:02 PM) the NBA owns the hornets correct? so why would David Stern kill this deal? Because it kills a lot of the credibility of why the lockout supposedly happened.
December 9, 201114 yr The NBA owns the Hornets is the exact reason he may kill the deal. He isnt going to have an owners civil war that results in his ouster over trading Paul to the Lakers. He works for the owners, he will appease the majority.
December 9, 201114 yr Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just told ESPN.com: "The deal is off."
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 09:06 PM) Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just told ESPN.com: "The deal is off." NICE!!!
December 9, 201114 yr On what grounds, i can make up a million but my guess is something like: Hornets are owned by NBA as such the deal was "preliminary" and not "official" in that it had to be approved by XYZ. When presented to XYZ the deal was not approved and thus there never was any deal to kill.
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:06 PM) On what grounds can he kill it though? I'm sure the NBA has leeway for the commish to kill things for the good of the game or competitive reasons.
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:06 PM) On what grounds can he kill it though? conflict of interest?
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 02:08 AM) On what grounds, i can make up a million but my guess is something like: Hornets are owned by NBA as such the deal was "preliminary" and not "official" in that it had to be approved by XYZ. When presented to XYZ the deal was not approved and thus there never was any deal to kill. I'm honestly shocked though. The lakers are one of the teams that will share revenue with all the others, I'm shocked stern would screw them over. Pleased, but shocked.
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:11 PM) I'm honestly shocked though. The lakers are one of the teams that will share revenue with all the others, I'm shocked stern would screw them over. Pleased, but shocked. The problem comes with the 27 teams that aren't in LA or NY.
December 9, 201114 yr Also the NBA has to try and retain the value of the Hornets franchise for when they want to sell it. They cant just trade everyone for nothing. Its surprising they are entertaining any trade offers when the team is not owned. Edited December 9, 201114 yr by Soxbadger
December 9, 201114 yr Personally, I think it's bogus for the NBA to veto this deal if it's for competitive balance reasons. This shouldn't be fantasy sports where you have to oversee crappy owners.
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:12 PM) Also the NBA has to try and retain the value of the Hornets franchise for when they want to sell it. They cant just trade everyone for nothing. Its surprising they are entertaining any trade offers when the team is not owned. That also makes sense.
December 9, 201114 yr Fathom, The NBA is the crappy owner here. See the problem, if the Hornets lose everyone really has lost. Thats why its very odd that Hornets are even involved in any trade discussions. The #1 priority for the NBA should be to find a new owner for Hornets and let the new owner do what he wants.
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:12 PM) Personally, I think it's bogus for the NBA to veto this deal if it's for competitive balance reasons. This shouldn't be fantasy sports where you have to oversee crappy owners. the problem is there is no crappy owner here and the deal is shady
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 03:15 AM) Fathom, The NBA is the crappy owner here. See the problem, if the Hornets lose everyone really has lost. Thats why its very odd that Hornets are even involved in any trade discussions. The #1 priority for the NBA should be to find a new owner for Hornets and let the new owner do what he wants. Thing is, aren't the Hornets better off by adding three above average players in Scola/Odom/Martin? I doubt Paul's body will hold up during this 66 game sprint.
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:12 PM) Personally, I think it's bogus for the NBA to veto this deal if it's for competitive balance reasons. This shouldn't be fantasy sports where you have to oversee crappy owners. the problem is there is no crappy owner here and the deal is shady
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:12 PM) Personally, I think it's bogus for the NBA to veto this deal if it's for competitive balance reasons. This shouldn't be fantasy sports where you have to oversee crappy owners. Normally, I wouldn't be whining like I am. But we lost damn near two months of hoops for s*** the lockout was supposed to address. Edited December 9, 201114 yr by Jordan4life
December 9, 201114 yr Fathom, There is no way the Hornets are better off trading a young superstar for those guys. Paul is a superstar, if you want a new owner you are going to have to move Paul for another superstar that you can sell to the new owner to build the franchise around. If I was thinking of buying the Hornets, Id want to at least try and resign Paul and sell him on the idea that Im going to make the Hornets great. Edited December 9, 201114 yr by Soxbadger
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:17 PM) Thing is, aren't the Hornets better off by adding three above average players in Scola/Odom/Martin? I doubt Paul's body will hold up during this 66 game sprint. Chris Paul is arguably the best PG in the game, 26, and in his prime. Two role players and a dime a dozen SG is bad (though I like Martin).
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 02:17 AM) Thing is, aren't the Hornets better off by adding three above average players in Scola/Odom/Martin? I doubt Paul's body will hold up during this 66 game sprint. And Paul was going to leave after this season anyway. 3 solid starters in exchange for 1 season of Paul? I don't think the Hornets are getting robbed here.
December 9, 201114 yr Truth be told, I'm not a fan of Paul's. With that said, I think this trade doesn't hurt the integrity of the game nearly as much as the Gasol one did.
December 9, 201114 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) Why would anyone want Odom anymore. Two words: Khloe Kardashian.
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