The point is ... What the f*** does rebuild mean??

Finishing 20 under for 5 straight years instead of 10 over?

We need to ride out this pitching staff and change the lineup again.

"On paper" our starting pitching and bullpen is supposed to be special.

Admittedly we have not seen that on a consistent basis.

 

This starting pitching is not special, and hasn't been for a complete season since....you guessed it, 2005.

Just want to chime in that although I don't usually buy into a lot of intangibles talk, it's really frustrating to see a good team wet their pants so bad against any rival, let alone a divisional one.

 

Main reason i'd call for major changes this offseason... Twins are in these guys heads. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it every game of every series with Minny.

Yeah, it certainly seems like they are in the Sox heads. And it just looks like the Twins win effortlessly.

I agree I'd rather see somebody young, anybody really, play next year instead of Juan and Omar and AJ.

 

But why blow up the rotation?

 

Cause they're due to make more money than the GDP of third world countries.

The point is ... What the f*** does rebuild mean??

Finishing 20 under for 5 straight years instead of 10 over?

We need to ride out this pitching staff and change the lineup again.

"On paper" our starting pitching and bullpen is supposed to be special.

Admittedly we have not seen that on a consistent basis.

 

The Phillies would be the ideal model I'd like to adopt. Both KW and Ozzie would have to go first, though.

A topic someone asked me about today: was the 25-5 stretch the worst thing that could have happened to the Sox organization?

It seems that way.

That box score is gay. Mauer hit a legitimate 3-run HR.

 

 

No, it was deep. Real HR.

 

 

It was a bomb, definitely cleared the fence.

I was gonna type "I feel better" but no. I don't.

Yay, finally someone has the balls to question the Sox approach on offense, and it's Hawk of all people.

This starting pitching is not special, and hasn't been for a complete season since....you guessed it, 2005.

 

Danks is at best a #3 and you've got two #4 types in Floyd and Buehrle. And there's tons of questions surrounding Peavy.

I was gonna type "I feel better" but no. I don't.

HR is a HR.

This team makes me want to drink. Must...wait...til...Friday.

HR is a HR.

 

At least it would've been funny to mock CQ had it been his fault.

At least it would've been funny to mock CQ had it been his fault.

Ah, I could see the play being shown on ESPN over and over. Quentin chasing a ball around like it's a greased piglet.

Watching Beckham's AB from last inning, you have to wonder why in the hell is he playing? It doesn't take a doctor to realize he's not close to 100%. Gavin continuing his awful stretch run. Both Danks and Floyd have so much ability, but neither has been able to avoid the trend of way too many unwinnable starts.

Yay, finally someone has the balls to question the Sox approach on offense, and it's Hawk of all people.

 

What did he say?

This starting pitching is not special, and hasn't been for a complete season since....you guessed it, 2005.

 

The Sox must disagree since they dealt some pretty f***ing good starting pitchers the last few years.

So what starters do you want to deal? Who replaces them?

I know ... Clayton Richard, Hudson, Gio ... oh wait. they aren't with the team anymore.

You guys want to blow up the rotation as well?

That makes no sense unless the "rebuilding" means being the Royals the next 10 years.

Same formula we have every year in the 2nd half. Our offense basically shrivels up. Game is kept close for a bit, we get some situation where the bases are loaded and we choke. The following inning the Twinks break it open. Same f***ing formula, year after year. We keep changing players, same thing.

 

So maybe its time to clean house and start over.

Watching Beckham's AB from last inning, you have to wonder why in the hell is he playing? It doesn't take a doctor to realize he's not close to 100%. Gavin continuing his awful stretch run. Both Danks and Floyd have so much ability, but neither has been able to avoid the trend of way too many unwinnable starts.

 

They've been the same exact pitchers for the last three years. That's not a real bad thing. But you'd like to see natural progression for guys as young and talented as they are.

What did he say?

 

That Sox righty hitters have one hit to left field all day, and that if you keep trying to pull the ball vs Duensing, you're going to have no chance.

That makes no sense unless the "rebuilding" means being the Royals the next 10 years.

 

Kenny already started when he got Teahan.

 

The Sox must disagree since they dealt some pretty f***ing good starting pitchers the last few years.

So what starters do you want to deal? Who replaces them?

I know ... Clayton Richard, Hudson, Gio ... oh wait. they aren't with the team anymore.

You guys want to blow up the rotation as well?

That makes no sense unless the "rebuilding" means being the Royals the next 10 years.

I don't think fathom was saying he wanted the rotation blown up. He was stating a fact. And having Richard, Gio, and Huson in the rotation right now wouldn't make it any better.

This team makes me want to drink. Must...wait...til...Friday.

 

sweet alcohol is calling you. . .

Same formula we have every year in the 2nd half. Our offense basically shrivels up. Game is kept close for a bit, we get some situation where the bases are loaded and we choke. The following inning the Twinks break it open. Same f***ing formula, year after year. We keep changing players, same thing.

 

So maybe its time to clean house and start over.

 

I know I'm the most Anti-Ozzie guy on here, but is there still any real doubt that there needs to be a shake up with the KW/Ozzie/Walker/Cooper foursome? I can't imagine even the most optimstic/Ozzie supporters would disagree.

The Sox must disagree since they dealt some pretty f***ing good starting pitchers the last few years.

So what starters do you want to deal? Who replaces them?

I know ... Clayton Richard, Hudson, Gio ... oh wait. they aren't with the team anymore.

You guys want to blow up the rotation as well?

That makes no sense unless the "rebuilding" means being the Royals the next 10 years.

 

Well Danks hasn't signed an extension and is going to be costly. Buerhle is basically untradeable at this point. Edwin is a boras client, so enjoy next year and thats it. Our rotation is going to turn itself over in the next few years one way or another. Thankfully Kenny decided to go for it and dump one of our best pitching prospects.

 

 

sweet alcohol is calling you. . .

*glances nervously at the fridge*

That Sox righty hitters have one hit to left field all day, and that if you keep trying to pull the ball vs Duensing, you're going to have no chance.

 

That's been going on forever. There must be a sign somewhere at the Cell that says"I dare ya to try to pull it out of here. I dare ya".