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OBAMA/TRUMPCARE MEGATHREAD

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Moran was one of the few Republicans to hold a town hall, fwiw.

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    Having seen how the VA is run and how Medicare is run....even if it can be done without a dollar increase in my taxes, I still say no thanks.

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    It's just amazing that this country has to keep having these conversations as if a single payer health insurance plan is some wild new hypothetical program that's never been tried. It has, in differen

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McConnell is instead going to hold a vote on a full repeal that can pass with only 50 votes, which originally passed back in 2015. That version kicks 32 million people off of health care.

 

That particular bill is even worse than s straight repeal.

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Trump dropping repeal, says he will "Let Obamacare fail."

 

To me that means, "Obamacare isn't that bad. I just wanted to replace it because the black guy implemented it. Aw shucks."

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:01 PM)
Trump dropping repeal, says he will "Let Obamacare fail."

 

To me that means, "Obamacare isn't that bad. I just wanted to replace it because the black guy implemented it. Aw shucks."

And instead of trying to fix it, just do what you can to let it fail, and then say, see I told you, I'm so smart. He is truly a rotten human being.

Republicans will be running on Obamacare for another decade

This is probably the best decision he's made since being voted in.

 

Do we clap?

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:56 PM)
This is probably the best decision he's made since being voted in.

 

Do we clap?

 

To let Ocare fail?

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 01:11 PM)
To let Ocare fail?

 

I was talking about dropping the idea of a repeal.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 01:15 PM)
I was talking about dropping the idea of a repeal.

 

Ah gotcha. Trump is so sporadic who knows what you can really trust from him.

He was pushing for it as recently as this morning. It wasn't so much him dropping it as they're not being enough votes to move forward with the bill at all.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:01 PM)
Trump dropping repeal, says he will "Let Obamacare fail."

 

To me that means, "Obamacare isn't that bad. I just wanted to replace it because the black guy implemented it. Aw shucks."

If they don't pay insurance cost-sharing subsidies or they refuse to enforce the mandate penalties the entire ACA Marketplace will collapse within 1 fiscal year and there will be no such thing as an individual insurance market. They can do this.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:20 PM)
Republicans will be running on Obamacare for another decade

I disagree...

 

They'd get laughed at, they have the House, Senate and a dope at the WH who'll sign anything the hardcore rightwing of the GOP wants...and they still failed.

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Called it...bill is dead, have to move on to tax reform and budget reconciliation.

 

The problem is losing those potential offsets in Medicaid savings AND ever Senator furious they still have to go on record with a vote that has no chance of passing but that will be hung around their necks from primary challengers and/or the Dems in 2018 and especially 2020.

 

See Flake and Heller, in particular.

It seems that Trump's only business skill is not paying things he's supposed to pay for.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:05 AM)
It seems that Trump's only business skill is not paying things he's supposed to pay for.

The Art of the Deal.

Where's Jared???

I love how the President of the United States wants our healthcare system to fail so that his political party feels like they "won." Thats what this s*** has come to.

Guys, this very much is not over. They'll simply decide not to fund the ACA and it will die. They'll create the outcome that causes it to fail.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:25 AM)
Guys, this very much is not over. They'll simply decide not to fund the ACA and it will die. They'll create the outcome that causes it to fail.

Of course, and hopefully they will be held accountable. Using Americans and their health as pawns for political gain is beyond disgusting. It really should be criminal.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:56 AM)
Of course, and hopefully they will be held accountable. Using Americans and their health as pawns for political gain is beyond disgusting. It really should be criminal.

It was the Mexicans fault.

Andrew Beatty @AndrewBeatty

Some worried looks from Trump allies in the State Dinning Room when he just promised healthcare premiums will drop 60-70 percent

11:50 AM - 19 Jul 2017

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Major Garrett @MajorCBS

"The people of this country need more than repeal. We are very close. You will have forms of insurance you don't even know about." @POTUS

12:15 PM - 19 Jul 2017

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Why are the worried. Trump learned all there is to know about healthcare in a very short time. He's like really smart.

Forms of insurance you wont even know about? WTF

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 12:52 PM)
Forms of insurance you wont even know about? WTF

 

He is a child that is trapped in the body of an old man.

 

"And then the death star showed up, blasted its laser, and I reflected the beams to destroy it! ! It gets blown into a infinity pieces!"

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