Not unexpected, but every day feels like a bucket of reality hitting me that we are going to really suck next year.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

He'll go to the NL and dominate.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

 

I understand. Just means were one step closer to counting on Pena or Linebring to be a pivotal piece of the bullpen. That won't work.

I understand. Just means were one step closer to counting on Pena or Linebring to be a pivotal piece of the bullpen. That won't work.

Clearly. If we go into next season with Linebrink and Pena as anything other than the 6th and 7th guys in the bullpen, we're going to be finding a way to trade for a reliever at the deadline.

 

That said...Jenks was still part of the problem last season. A huge part.

Mark today as the day that the Jenks fan club starts again.

Clearly. If we go into next season with Linebrink and Pena as anything other than the 6th and 7th guys in the bullpen, we're going to be finding a way to trade for a reliever at the deadline.That said...Jenks was still part of the problem last season. A huge part.

 

 

I think that is being quite optimistic. If Pena and especially Linebrink are counted on to handle late and close innings I don't believe that we will be looking to add relievers at the deadline. I think that it's much more likely that we will be selling off parts by mid June.

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Clearly. If we go into next season with Linebrink and Pena as anything other than the 6th and 7th guys in the bullpen, we're going to be finding a way to trade for a reliever at the deadline.

 

That said...Jenks was still part of the problem last season. A huge part.

There's a decent chance Pena gets non tendered as well, although I suppose he can always return.

Bobby has always seemed very unwilling to adopt the work ethic that the White Sox having been trying to instill upon him. I understand the frustration that both parties have here, and agree that it’s probably time to cut the cord.

His peripherals last season were pretty solid, but arb was going to overpay him. I would take him back for less than 5 mil.

When Bobby had a 1.50 WHIP, WTF was Ozzie supposed to do? He was entirely average last year. Look around the league, guys lose their closer's jobs all the time when they don't perform, why does Bobby feel he should have a higher threshold of suckiness? But we have some huge issues now. A very bad bullpen (because we have one legitimate guy in there now) and an offense that looks the swiss the cheese on my sandwich.

If the Sox don't trade a pitcher, is Jackson the closer?

If the Sox don't trade a pitcher, is Jackson the closer?

No. There's been zero talk of doing that.

The problems Ozzie and KW had with Jenks seemed to be more with off the field stuff than on it. I wish Jenks the best, but I'll be happy to not have him on the Sox anymore. Thanks for 2005 big man!

 

I think that is being quite optimistic. If Pena and especially Linebrink are counted on to handle late and close innings I don't believe that we will be looking to add relievers at the deadline. I think that it's much more likely that we will be selling off parts by mid June.

 

I think you are misreading this as Balta saying that Linebrink and Pena are the 6th and 7th inning guys. He is not implying that. He is saying that Linebrink and Pena have to be a junk-innings pitcher and a mopup reliever (the 6th and 7th guys OUT OF the bullpen), and they can battle to the death for whoever gets whatever role.

 

I don't entirely buy that Pena will be back. They didn't bring Carrasco back at like $1 mill last year when he was good at eating mopup innings, so why would they bring Pena back at $2 mill when he was terrible at it? Maybe because Williams gave up Allen to get him, but I don't entirely buy that. Williams generally folds when he knows he's beaten, and it sort of appears that way with Pena.

No. There's been zero talk of doing that.

 

Though years back when the Sox talked of trading Dye for Edwin, the rumor was the Sox liked him as a closer.

When's the "he's gone!" party start?

 

Fly fatass, fly!

Good luck, Jenks! I feel like you can be successful with someone else next year, but I'm with the Sox: it's not worth paying to find out. Not the price you're going to command, anyway.

He'll go to the NL and dominate.

 

if he was smart he would...

He'll go to the NL and dominate.

Is it really easier for a closer to dominate in the NL? Wouldn't pitchers typically get pinch hit for when a closer comes in?

Right now the White Sox bullpen consists of Santos, Sale and Thorton.

 

Right now the White Sox bullpen consists of Santos, Sale and Thorton.

And Infante, I'd assume.

Right now the White Sox bullpen consists of Santos, Sale and Thorton.

 

There are worse ways to start a bullpen

Right now the White Sox bullpen consists of Santos, Sale and Thorton.

Well those are three good ones to build a bullpen around.

Right now the White Sox bullpen consists of Santos, Sale and Thorton.

 

Right now the Twins bullpen consists of Capps, Neshek, Mijares, and Nathan coming off of Tommy John surgery

Right now the Twins bullpen consists of Capps, Neshek, Mijares, and Nathan coming off of Tommy John surgery

 

Grand Slam Neshek is still around?