Was it bad luck today? I see his K/BB ratio was rather good.

He started off wild and ineffective, got it together as the outing went on. It wasn't a good start by any means, but he gave us a chance to win the game.

I think if a pitcher is traded Edwin sould be it

completly agree. its just a whole lot easier to say "fire ozzie!" instead of saying crain sucked,etc. but hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion , no reason to fight

 

That's true. How did we score? My MLB froze up.

He started off wild and ineffective, got it together as the outing went on. It wasn't a good start by any means, but he gave us a chance to win the game.

 

You think we see him start another game? If he does, it's simply to showcase him for a trade.

Was it bad luck today? I see his K/BB ratio was rather good.

He throws way to many 3-1 counts to be effective.

He started off wild and ineffective, got it together as the outing went on. It wasn't a good start by any means, but he gave us a chance to win the game.

 

Cool. I was just looking at the stats. I saw one BB and thought he couldn't have been too bad.

He started off wild and ineffective, got it together as the outing went on. It wasn't a good start by any means, but he gave us a chance to win the game.

 

I agree yet disagree.

He didn't give us a good chance to win the game.

The bats came today and he was not really good. He didn't take advantage of our offense coming to play today.

A loss is a loss. So we hit and still lose.

The funny thing is that I trust Ohman more than the other lefties in our bullpen if we have to get one lefty batter out.

You think we see him start another game? If he does, it's simply to showcase him for a trade.

Who knows...but if it were me, given the potential returns, I would roll the dice on Edwin keep him around and trade Danks because we can actually get something for him.

 

If neither are going to be around, shouldn't we trade the one that actually nets some kind of return?

Sale needs to be a SP in AAA....................Now.

He throws way to many 3-1 counts to be effective.

 

True. I was just asking about today. I just got home about 20 minutes ago.

Jackson was fine, hes just the easiest whipping boy on the Sox staff. Bautista hit a 3 run hr off of him and he was a little off the first few innings. The fact is that if 5 ers is a terrible start, than no pitcher should be pitching in the AL because im not sure there is a pitcher who hasnt given up that many.

 

He kept the Sox in a position to win, gave up a few weak hits (broken bats etc), but when he got a lead he held it.

 

Got no problem with that outing.

Minnie Minoso would have caught that ball in left. I don't mean the Minnie of 1951....

I agree yet disagree.

He didn't give us a good chance to win the game.

The bats came today and he was not really good. He didn't take advantage of our offense coming to play today.

A loss is a loss. So we hit and still lose.

Ok you're right, Greg. He wasn't pitching with a 6-5 lead into the 7th after giving up 5 runs in the first 2 2/3.

Who knows...but if it were me, given the potential returns, I would roll the dice on Edwin keep him around and trade Danks because we can actually get something for him.

 

If neither are going to be around, shouldn't we trade the one that actually nets some kind of return?

 

But you really think Boras and the Sox can work on an agreement to keep Jackson around? You know I'm with you in trading Danks.

lol

 

Yeah Jackson wont bring any return because every staff in the league has guys better than him.

 

Come on now, if the Sox wanted to trade Edwin, he could be gone today.

Jackson was fine, hes just the easiest whipping boy on the Sox staff. Bautista hit a 3 run hr off of him and he was a little off the first few innings. The fact is that if 5 ers is a terrible start, than no pitcher should be pitching in the AL because im not sure there is a pitcher who hasnt given up that many.

 

He kept the Sox in a position to win, gave up a few weak hits (broken bats etc), but when he got a lead he held it.

 

Got no problem with that outing.

 

I'm not exactly happy with the outing, and his WHIP has been terrible this year for someone with his stuff.

Who knows...but if it were me, given the potential returns, I would roll the dice on Edwin keep him around and trade Danks because we can actually get something for him.

 

If neither are going to be around, shouldn't we trade the one that actually nets some kind of return?

 

I agree. But I doubt KW can pull it off. A year and a half of Danks should fetch exactly what the Jays got for Marcum.

But you really think Boras and the Sox can work on an agreement to keep Jackson around? You know I'm with you in trading Danks.

No. I mean keep Edwin around for the remainder of the season. I still think we are going to be in this division for the long haul, so I'd like to keep one of them.

lol

 

Yeah Jackson wont bring any return because every staff in the league has guys better than him.

 

Come on now, if the Sox wanted to trade Edwin, he could be gone today.

 

Make him a reliever and get rid of Pena. He gets the Pena role.

So we're saying that giving up 6 earned runs is just fine now a days? Please, I don't care how they were given up, that's a bad start no matter how you look at it.

No. I mean keep Edwin around for the remainder of the season. I still think we are going to be in this division for the long haul, so I'd like to keep one of them.

 

Well yeah, you can't let both go.

lol

 

Yeah Jackson wont bring any return because every staff in the league has guys better than him.

 

Come on now, if the Sox wanted to trade Edwin, he could be gone today.

Yeah, but most likely he's going to return much less than Danks would, even though I think the returns on the field would be very similar this season.

Francisco has been getting lit up.................we have a chance in the 9th.

I agree. But I doubt KW can pull it off. A year and a half of Danks should fetch exactly what the Jays got for Marcum.

Danks doesn't come with the injury concerns Marcum had.