Floyd with another Peavyesque performance. Looks like its going to be good for 5 innings, then the roof caves in.

The irony as well, both Martinez and Cabrera are Venezuelan.

 

And yet Ozzie seemingly never wanted Martinez.

 

Sure, we already had AJ, but by this point in his career, nobody was looking at Victor as more than a back-up/emergency catcher.

I pasted a link on another thread, before the Sox signed Dunn they supposedly offered Martinez $48 million for 3 years. He took Detroit's 4 year offer for a couple million more.

Floyd with another Peavyesque performance. Looks like its going to be good for 5 innings, then the roof caves in.

 

Starting pitching has just collapsed.

I feel sorry for anyone who had to pay to watch this nonsense.

I pasted a link on another thread, before the Sox signed Dunn they supposedly offered Martinez $48 million for 3 years. He took Detroit's 4 year offer for a couple million more.

 

 

Lost out on Damon, Cabrera and Martinez because of a dearth of prospects and/or the willpower to get a deal done.

 

You wonder how serious they were about Victor, or if it was one of their "token" offerings like to Rowand or Torii Hunter in which they had a 90-95% certainty they'd come up short but still gets brownie points for trying?

 

 

Lost out on Damon, Cabrera and Martinez because of a dearth of prospects and/or the willpower to get a deal done.

 

You wonder how serious they were about Victor, or if it was one of their "token" offerings like to Rowand or Torii Hunter in which they had a 90-95% certainty they'd come up short but still gets brownie points for trying?

The report said the Sox offered 3 years $48 million and Detroit signed him for 4 years $50 million. If it was a token offer, and the report was accurate, they were playing with fire.

Floyd with another Peavyesque performance. Looks like its going to be good for 5 innings, then the roof caves in.

 

It's a crapshoot to figure out who to trade, Floyd or Danks, and which one has the most value at this point.

 

I guess Cooper would have a lot better feel than anyone.

 

 

By the way, was there ever any "falling out" between Hudson and Cooper or "miscommunication/lack of communication"?

You just wonder about how someone with such a great eye for talent would give up on the guy after just 3 starts? Did he have a bad reputation in the minor league system for not working well with the coaches?

 

Gio Gonzalez, that one was on KW...but the Hudson deal is mystifying. How much of it was Cooper thinking he could max out Jackson's potential versus uncertainty out of what they could get out of Hudson in Chicago in the heat of a pennant race against an offense like Minnesota's in 2010.

The report said the Sox offered 3 years $48 million and Detroit signed him for 4 years $50 million. If it was a token offer, and the report was accurate, they were playing with fire.

 

That can't be true, or he would have taken the White Sox deal if he really wanted to play for Ozzie.

 

Rational/logical decision-making would say that he could get well oer $2 million+ in 2014 for his services.

That can't be true, or he would have taken the White Sox deal if he really wanted to play for Ozzie.

 

Rational/logical decision-making would say that he could get well oer $2 million+ in 2014 for his services.

Maybe there was deferred money or something like that, or maybe he didn't want to play for Ozzie. Funny thing is if the Sox gave Martinez what they gave Dunn, Dunn probably winds up a Tiger.

I feel sorry for anyone who had to pay to watch this nonsense.

Honestly, it's probably 99% Tigers fans.

If the Sox don't come back tonight, and lose tomorrow, they will have to win out and Detroit will have to lose the rest they play. The playoffs are not looking good.

Maybe there was deferred money or something like that, or maybe he didn't want to play for Ozzie. Funny thing is if the Sox gave Martinez what they gave Dunn, Dunn probably winds up a Tiger.

 

It didn't happen like that. The report out of Venezuela was wrong.

It didn't happen like that. The report out of Venezuela was wrong.

Still, Dunn got more money than Martinez. If KW gave Victor the contract instead of Dunn, Dunn probably only has Detroit to go to.

Man the Sox stink.

Back under .500 after tonight.

I'd think they'd stay under the rest of the year.

 

At least the Sox have a few hits off Verlander.

Man the Sox stink.

Back under .500 after tonight.

I'd think they'd stay under the rest of the year.

 

At least the Sox have a few hits off Verlander.

Why would they stay there? Ozzie is the manager.

Morel looks like a different player out there

Morel looks like a different player out there

At some point it appears he just kind of said "f*** it, the season is over, I'm going to start turning it loose," which for him has turned into a huge positive.

At some point it appears he just kind of said "f*** it, the season is over, I'm going to start turning it loose," which for him has turned into a huge positive.

 

No kidding, it's great to see.

Why would they stay there? Ozzie is the manager.

 

I hope you are not one of those who think Ozzie is the only problem child on this horrible baseball team and franchise which appears to have not much talent in the minor league system. It's too easy to just blame Ozzeroo.

I hope you are not one of those who think Ozzie is the only problem child on this horrible baseball team and franchise which appears to have not much talent in the minor league system. It's too easy to just blame Ozzeroo.

He's not the problem he's the solution. This team is losing despite having perhaps the greatest manager in the game. Loria is going to go broke buying WS championship rings when he brings in Ozzie. Ozzie's greatness is not questioned, I just wonder how you can think a team can finish below .500 with Ozzie at the helm? It doesn't seem possible to me. Ozzie is too good.

At some point it appears he just kind of said "f*** it, the season is over, I'm going to start turning it loose," which for him has turned into a huge positive.

 

He told Greg Walker to eat s*** probably.

unreal

Tyler Flowers is pretty freaking awful. He needs Tim Laker to help him out again, as his swing is significantly longer than it was when he was promoted.

unreal

 

Unreal? We've seen this all year. I'm officially off the Flowers bandwagon. He Ks too damn much.

I don't think I have ever seen a team look so totally clueless as the Sox have looked playing Detroit these last two series.