danman31 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 12:19 PM) He'll probably be selected in the Rule 5 as he's not currently protected. That's absolutely ridiculous. The Sox have 4 open spots and wouldn't waste sending him to the AFL just to leave him unprotected after a great showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Remember, if a player is picked in the rule 5, then the drafting team needs to keep that player on their big league roster for the full 162 game season. For a guy who pitched 1/2 of a AA season last year, that's an iffy move. If he comes out and puts up an ERA of 7 in his first 3 starts after jumping 2 levels, you can't just hide him on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 05:22 PM) Remember, if a player is picked in the rule 5, then the drafting team needs to keep that player on their big league roster for the full 162 game season. For a guy who pitched 1/2 of a AA season last year, that's an iffy move. If he comes out and puts up an ERA of 7 in his first 3 starts after jumping 2 levels, you can't just hide him on the bench. There's also the minor league phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 10:45 PM) There's also the minor league phase. There's no doubt he will be protected the minor league portion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 We send him to AFL, and he does great, so we don't protect him? Why then did we send him to AFL? If I didn't know better, it looks as if Kenny Williams is running the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 12:00 PM) We send him to AFL, and he does great, so we don't protect him? Why then did we send him to AFL? If I didn't know better, it looks as if Kenny Williams is running the show. If I looked at other team's lists of players who went to the AFL and had moderate success, do you think I could find a decent number who weren't protected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john@jmjtc.com Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Guess who made the AFL 2011 Top Prospects Team? http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...lb&c_id=mlb Edited November 20, 2011 by NHDadUmp-RI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 QUOTE (NHDadUmp-RI @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 05:38 PM) Guess who made the AFL 2011 Top Prospects Team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...rticle_26024804 Please, someone explain to me why the White Sox chose not to keep Terry Doyle safe on the 40-man roster and possibly lose Doyle to another team. Doyle has been very solid at each stop. -- Greg, Rochester, N.Y. Doyle deserves credit for getting his name into consideration for the 40-man following a tremendous showing in the Arizona Fall League. He was a solid pitcher, not known as a pure stuff guy, but opened eyes during the past six weeks. Ultimately, a guy like Charlie Leesman, who was added to the 40-man roster, might have more upside in regard to raw talent, especially since this career Minor League starter could figure into the White Sox relief plans in the very near future. Then again, Doyle's success won't be measured on the speed gun. It's hard to argue with a guy who seems to have an understanding on how to pitch and operates with a great deal of heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 23, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...rticle_26024804 In other words... I have no freakin idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Pitching>Stuff any day of the week. However you need to at least figure out how to battle major league hitters that have much better pitch recognition than minor leaguers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 And now he's a Twin. 2nd overall pick in the Rule 5 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 He's 26 years old. Give it a rest. The Sox most likely will be able to buy him back for $25k. The chances of him turning into anything better than Lance Broadway are slim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 05:55 AM) He's 26 years old. Give it a rest. The Sox most likely will be able to buy him back for $25k. The chances of him turning into anything better than Lance Broadway are slim. Speaking of giving it a rest, the dude is already better than Lance Broadway ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'm still scratching my head as to how someone with the name "Lance Broadway" could not be a success in major league baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 01:23 PM) If I looked at other team's lists of players who went to the AFL and had moderate success, do you think I could find a decent number who weren't protected? No, I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 03:03 PM) No, I don't. Which is odd because 12 players were selected in the Rule V draft, so 40% of baseball disagrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) Which is odd because 12 players were selected in the Rule V draft, so 40% of baseball disagrees. He said ones with AFL success. Not unprotected players in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 07:39 AM) Speaking of giving it a rest, the dude is already better than Lance Broadway ever was. Check Lance Broadway at Birmingham as a 22 year old vs. Doyle at Birmingham as a 25 year old, then pop off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 23, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...rticle_26024804 See Buehrle, Mark. Bradford, Chad. Fogg, Josh. Even Matt Guerrier. Edited December 10, 2011 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 You'll eat those words, Dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 It's hard to argue that the Sox have enough minor league pitching depth to risk losing an overachiever like Terry Doyle for $50,000. The Twins landed the 26-year-old right-hander with the second pick in the Rule 5 draft and will give him a chance to win a job on their staff next season, possibly even in the rotation. "We're looking for pitching," Twins GM Terry Ryan said of Doyle, who was 4-0 with a 1.98 ERA in the Arizona Fall League after a solid season that ended in Double-A. "He's a good fit here. … He's a worker. He's going to take the ball. He's big and strong and durable. We've had a lot of looks at him." phil rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 11:33 PM) You'll eat those words, Dick. Your track record for predicting major league success isn't exactly stellar either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 FWIW, I asked K. Goldstein what the odds were that Terry would make the Twins 25-man roster, and he said very slim, so it appears there is a good chance we get him back! So maybe not protecting him won't come back to bite us in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 05:58 PM) Your track record for predicting major league success isn't exactly stellar either. Whose track record is? Am I a professional scout? No. Edited January 23, 2012 by JPN366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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