January 23, 201214 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 01:28 PM) FWIW, I asked K. Goldstein what the odds were that Terry would make the Twins 25-man roster, and he said very slim, so it appears there is a good chance we get him back! So maybe not protecting him won't come back to bite us in the ass. Goldstein = worthless opinion I'd like to know how many times he's seen him pitch.
January 23, 201214 yr QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 11:36 PM) Goldstein = worthless opinion I'd like to know how many times he's seen him pitch. Probably zero. He isn't a scout, and doesn't claim to be. He has plenty of scout sources and contacts that have seem him pitch though. It's how he gets much of his information. That's okay. Kevin isn't the minority in not thinking a whole lot of Terry Doyle.
January 23, 201214 yr QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) Probably zero. He isn't a scout, and doesn't claim to be. He has plenty of scout sources and contacts that have seem him pitch though. It's how he gets much of his information. That's okay. Kevin isn't the minority in not thinking a whole lot of Terry Doyle. Innings eaters aren't gonna wow anybody, but if they get outs, they get outs.
January 23, 201214 yr Author QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) Probably zero. He isn't a scout, and doesn't claim to be. He has plenty of scout sources and contacts that have seem him pitch though. It's how he gets much of his information. That's okay. Kevin isn't the minority in not thinking a whole lot of Terry Doyle. Doyle seems like the proto-typical Twins pitcher.
January 28, 201214 yr WhiteSoxTalkCSN White Sox Talk Hahn basically says if Doyle makes it through 2012 on the Twins' MLB roster, you tip your hat to him in the face of the trends of R5 Draft. 1 hour ago WhiteSoxTalkCSN White Sox Talk Hahn says the Sox didn't think Terry Doyle wouldn't be a factor in 2012. #SoxFest 1 hour ago
February 16, 201214 yr Terry Doyle: Rule 5 Twin http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/t...-rule-5-twin-2/
February 16, 201214 yr Great article. I wish Terry the best of luck with the Twins and if he comes back to Chicago I hope he's able to get on the big league roster and succeed!
February 17, 201214 yr My class is still trying to get media passes from the Twins, and if we do, I will be interviewing and writing a story on Terry in about 2 weeks. Edited February 17, 201214 yr by JoeCoolMan24
February 17, 201214 yr QUOTE (NHDadUmp-RI @ Feb 16, 2012 -> 01:31 PM) Terry Doyle: Rule 5 Twin http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/t...-rule-5-twin-2/ Hey Terry's Dad ... I've always enjoyed your posts about Terry and understand your great pride in his accomplishments. I think many of us wish him great success. Because he's now a hated-Twinkie, I think the formula for success (our version) is a bit convoluted -- a really good spring training, clearly indicating he's major league ready, but because a few other prospects have even more lights-out spring trainings, the Twinks have no alternative other than to offer him back to the Sox. Now, realizing yet again that pitching success is more than just lighting up the gun, WE give Terry a legit shot ourselves. On a more serious note, it still amazes me that a team so bereft of pitching talent and depth could so easily pass on giving a shot to arguably the most successful pitcher in last year's Arizona Fall League (perhaps the most notorious hitter's league of all hitter's leagues). It's not as if we're knee deep in pitching prospects who can consistently get good hitters out (no matter the reading on a gun or the subjective analysis of their overall "tools"). It boggles the mind that a team who watched Mark Buehrle pitch for all of these years (not saying that Terry is Mark, but I'm talking about pitchers who just know how to get batters out) couldn't even give this guy a real chance after his last couple of years. Then why sent him to the Arizona Fall league in the first place? And even if they didn't want him, then why not at least pretend to want him and trade him to the Twinks or some other team who fell in love with his Fall successes. This is yet one other way where I think Kenny simply mismanages his assets. Even if you don't value something yourself -- parlay it into something REAL that you do value. We're far too lacking in resources (money and organizational talent depth) to be playing so fast and loose. But I digress. Good luck Terry. And you too Terry's Dad.
February 17, 201214 yr I hope he doesn't make the Twins roster. Because... 1) I like him 2) I want to continue liking him 3) I would not if he was a Twin 4) I would if he was back.
February 17, 201214 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 16, 2012 -> 06:15 PM) My class is still trying to get media passes from the Twins, and if we do, I will be interviewing and writing a story on Terry in about 2 weeks. He's a good guy, all class.
March 4, 201214 yr Faces the Rays today. Any chance he comes back to the Sox in a month? edit: 2 shutout innings. Edited March 4, 201214 yr by flavum
March 5, 201214 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) Any chance he comes back to the Sox in a month? Anyone know his primary competition for making the 25 man roster?
March 15, 201214 yr For anyone wondering, the Twins did not give us access to their major league camp last week, so I didn't get to interview Terry. Instead, I interviewed Red Sox top prospect Kolbrin Vitek, an alum of BSU.
March 21, 201214 yr Welcome back, Terry Doyle. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/03/whit..._medium=twitter
March 21, 201214 yr Twins returned Rule 5 pick RHP Terry Doyle to the White Sox.Twins returned Rule 5 pick RHP Terry Doyle to the White Sox. The Twins selected Doyle in December's Rule 5 draft, but the 26-year-old right-hander was knocked around for 10 runs on 14 hits over just 5 1/3 innings this spring. The White Sox paid $25,000 to get him back and he'll be assigned to Triple-A Charlotte. Rotoworld Edited March 21, 201214 yr by Soxfest
March 21, 201214 yr Author QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 12:00 PM) So by exposing him to the Rule V draft the Sox basically made $25K TAKE THAT TWINS!~
March 21, 201214 yr Well, that certainly would have thrown a wrench in my story about Terry Doyle. Maybe it was a good thing the Twins didn't give us access to them.
March 21, 201214 yr QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 12:00 PM) So by exposing him to the Rule V draft the Sox basically made $25K Wrong.............. Sox had to pay the $25,000 to get him back.
March 21, 201214 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 01:17 PM) Wrong.............. Sox had to pay the $25,000 to get him back. Yeah, but I believe the Twins had paid the Sox $50K in the first place to get him, but only got $25K to send him back. Therefore, the Sox made $25K. Yes?
March 21, 201214 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 12:17 PM) Wrong.............. Sox had to pay the $25,000 to get him back. But they got paid 50k initially.
March 21, 201214 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 01:17 PM) Wrong.............. Sox had to pay the $25,000 to get him back. Wrong! The Twins first paid $50K to take him and the Sox only had to pay $25K to get him back! Hence the $25K profit!
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