It's not about telling n o to Mark, it's about telling the GM/Chairman to pay him.

He's not allowed to go play for Ozzie, just no.

He's not allowed to go play for Ozzie, just no.

 

That's just it. if he likes Ozzie, that would be a great place for him to go unfortunately.

That's just it. if he likes Ozzie, that would be a great place for him to go unfortunately.

No means no, Mike.

It would probably extend his career to go the NL, I'm just not sure I'd want to pitch for a team nobody cares about (then again, he just came from the White Sox) and maybe he has Ozzie hangover (then again, if Florida's willing to pay)....

 

Gettin paid millions to pitch in a new stadium, not so good fan base and low pressure, as well as possibly relocating the family to a no state tax with excellent weather, establishments and gorgeous women. I'd hate to play in Florida too...

No means no, Mike.

 

The sad thing is I would almost rather see him go to the Cubs. At least then you could say he wanted to stay in Chicago and be close to his family.

If he goes to another team for a bunch of money that's one thing. But if he signs with another team for something like 2/$24 million you'd have to wonder WTF.

If he goes to another team for a bunch of money that's one thing. But if he signs with another team for something like 2/$24 million you'd have to wonder WTF.

 

I have no doubt the Sox would match or beat that. If another team wants Mark, they are going to have to offer either 4/5 years or go over $15 or $16 million per year.

I have no doubt the Sox would match or beat that. If another team wants Mark, they are going to have to offer either 4/5 years or go over $15 or $16 million per year.

I agree. I don't see the Sox offering more than 3 years, though. If Mark can get 4 years at $16 million per, good for him. I just really don't want to see him go to Florida, even though it doesn't really matter if he goes to an NL team.

Gettin paid millions to pitch in a new stadium, not so good fan base and low pressure, as well as possibly relocating the family to a no state tax with excellent weather, establishments and gorgeous women. I'd hate to play in Florida too...

 

Miami is kind of the opposite of the type of area Mark has appeared to want to live in though

I agree. I don't see the Sox offering more than 3 years, though. If Mark can get 4 years at $16 million per, good for him. I just really don't want to see him go to Florida, even though it doesn't really matter if he goes to an NL team.

3 years/$48 million would be pushing it for Mark, but that'd still be one of those moments where I'd generally agree with people calling management cheap.

Miami is kind of the opposite of the type of area Mark has appeared to want to live in though

That was my thinking. What in his previous discussions about his future suggests he would want to up and move to Miami? Just months ago we were talking about how he may retire early to live out a quiet life with his family on their country property, and now the discussion is how the move to Miami would extend his career? I don't see how this makes sense from is perspective, aside from playing for Ozzie, and I just don't think that point is strong enough for him to make the move, no matter the price offered.

That was my thinking. What in his previous discussions about his future suggests he would want to up and move to Miami? Just months ago we were talking about how he may retire early to live out a quiet life with his family on their country property, and now the discussion is how the move to Miami would extend his career? I don't see how this makes sense from is perspective, aside from playing for Ozzie, and I just don't think that point is strong enough for him to make the move, no matter the price offered.

 

Having a boss you love could be motivation enough for someone to go another place. It happens all of the time.

Having a boss you love could be motivation enough for someone to go another place. It happens all of the time.

I buy that argument, though I think that would have made more sense had Ozzie left a couple years ago. Mark keeps hinting at about being done in a year or two, and relocating to Miami for a only a short time doesn't seem to fit with his plan (said not knowing what's actually going on in his head).

 

And is it safe to say that 'Mark to the Nats' shouldn't have legs?

Buehrle always seemed like the one Sox player who really didn't care about the Ozzie/KW controversy. I have no problem with him going to the Marlins. It's to the point where this free agency stuff is new for him, and I don't think he's a good fit here for anything more than 11 million a year.

I buy that argument, though I think that would have made more sense had Ozzie left a couple years ago. Mark keeps hinting at about being done in a year or two, and relocating to Miami for a only a short time doesn't seem to fit with his plan (said not knowing what's actually going on in his head).

 

And is it safe to say that 'Mark to the Nats' shouldn't have legs?

 

I wouldn't think so, but then again, now that he is in free agency, what's to say someone won't throw him an obscene amount of money, ala the Nationals, to try to pry him away. Money might not be a primary motivator, but there is also the reality that some dollar amounts you can't walk away from. We saw something similar with Thome and Philly.

I wouldn't think so, but then again, now that he is in free agency, what's to say someone won't throw him an obscene amount of money, ala the Nationals, to try to pry him away. Money might not be a primary motivator, but there is also the reality that some dollar amounts you can't walk away from. We saw something similar with Thome and Philly.

Because "Throwing an obscene amount of money at a player" is not always the best strategy, especially if you're not 1 year away from being a competitive franchise.

Buehrle is in quite a predicament. Almost anything he does will result in him being a hypocrite. If he signs somewhere for a ton of money, for a long contract, or further from St. Louis than Chicago currently is, he's basically contradicting everything he's said for years. Luckily for him, this is a classy problem, as the end result will always be that he's getting millions of dollars.

Buehrle is in quite a predicament. Almost anything he does will result in him being a hypocrite. If he signs somewhere for a ton of money, for a long contract, or further from St. Louis than Chicago currently is, he's basically contradicting everything he's said for years. Luckily for him, this is a classy problem, as the end result will always be that he's getting millions of dollars.

 

I can't be upset with Mark. If the Sox really wanted him, they shouldn't have let him hit the market. Anything that happens after this point is their own damned fault.

I can't be upset with Mark. If the Sox really wanted him, they shouldn't have let him hit the market. Anything that happens after this point is their own damned fault.

 

There are a couple of situations where I wouldn't be upset with him, but signing with the Cubs or Marlins don't fall in that category.

I can't be upset with Mark. If the Sox really wanted him, they shouldn't have let him hit the market. Anything that happens after this point is their own damned fault.

 

Maybe the Sox just don't want him back? They protected him last year, and still saw him fall apart down the stretch. With Sale going into the rotation, if they have plans to re-sign Danks (which we heard is a lot more possible than many think during last season), maybe they don't want 3 lefties in the rotation?

I can't be upset with Mark. If the Sox really wanted him, they shouldn't have let him hit the market. Anything that happens after this point is their own damned fault.

I dunno, it's actually kinda hard to know what Mark Buehrle's market value is right now, and Mark might well want to know that.

 

The Sox really ought to outbid just about anyone for him though.

There are a couple of situations where I wouldn't be upset with him, but signing with the Cubs or Marlins don't fall in that category.

 

The Marlins don't bother me at all if he goes there. The Cubs would be just a giant kick to the nuts.

There are a couple of situations where I wouldn't be upset with him, but signing with the Cubs or Marlins don't fall in that category.

 

I'd be more upset to see somewhere like NY or Boston, or even Detroit, versus the Cubs or Marlins.

I'd be more upset to see somewhere like NY or Boston, or even Detroit, versus the Cubs or Marlins.

Depends on the contract offers, a little. I mean, yeah maybe he doesn't want to play there for a long time, but put him in one of those cities and he massively improves his chances at another title.

I hope the White Sox do not re-sign MB, as much as I would be sad to see him in another uniform. We all know he is going to maximize a 'walk-off' contract and while it would be nice to see him play out his career on the Southside, we don't want to pay to see that happen here.

 

That said, the bigger reason I don't want them to pay-up to sign him is because we are not winning a WS with this line-up and the couple muppets like Rios and Dunn we are committed to. I would rather them use the money to sign some younger players or develop options with the money while we are in re-building mode. There's a lot more we could do with $30+ million than watch one of our favorite players diminish into the sunset .... Let him do that in Florida with the other elderly folk