LittleHurt05 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 08:42 PM) It is supposedly for a reliever. Thornton & Rios for Bay? That would save the Sox a year of an awful contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) Thornton & Rios for Bay? That would save the Sox a year of an awful contract It was the Pagan trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Cubs could be the mystery team. Joel Sherman said the Cubs are very much into the Pujols sweepstakes Edited December 7, 2011 by SOXOBAMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 04:15 AM) Cubs could be the mystery team. Joel Sherman said the Cubs are very much into the Pujols sweetstakes I think they're in on him still but not at ten years. Meanwhile, there probably is a mystery team out there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Glad to see a long time family friend is staying with the Red Sox.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 09:15 PM) Cubs could be the mystery team. Joel Sherman said the Cubs are very much into the Pujols sweepstakes No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 07:09 PM) I'm not sure the Orioles match up well with the White Sox. I also wonder if Coop is angling for a Matusz to fix. Sox and Orioles could match up very well. Baltimore has a lot of what the Sox want now -young upside pitching. MLB guys like Britton, Tillman, or system talent like Parker Bridwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) Sox and Orioles could match up very well. Baltimore has a lot of what the Sox want now -young upside pitching. MLB guys like Britton, Tillman, or system talent like Parker Bridwell. I'm not sold on Tillman. I figured Britton to untouchable. Bridwell isn't bad. High upside, but pretty risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:55 PM) Sox and Orioles could match up very well. Baltimore has a lot of what the Sox want now -young upside pitching. MLB guys like Britton, Tillman, or system talent like Parker Bridwell. But then who pitches for the Orioles? Maybe they'll just let other teams setup a T. Zach Britton is very interesting and I'd love to grab a kid with his arm. While I doubt the Orioles would move him, his first year wasn't overly inspiring, and his K rate was a bit pedestrian given he was really thought to be a strike out pitcher coming up, but he showed signs and I doubt the Os would move him. His arm is big time though. You also mention Tillman. He is much less exciting to me and doesn't project like Britton, which means someone like he would be a bit more likely. Edited December 7, 2011 by kwolf68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 No way Orioles give up Britton for anyone we're likely to give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:06 PM) No way Orioles give up Britton for anyone we're likely to give up. Perhaps...They would in the very least need a replacement for him, meaning at least a middle of the rotation starter. They do like Floyd. I don't see the point in a Floyd for Britton deal though, unless the Sox just wanted to get a younger starting pitcher. Could Floyd/Britton be expanded to include Carlos Quentin? I am not good with 'fake trades', but a starting point of Gavin Floyd and Carlos Quentin for Zach Britton + others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) I'm not sold on Tillman. I figured Britton to untouchable. Bridwell isn't bad. High upside, but pretty risky. Tillman is still very young. Needs a change of scenery. Britton likely untouchable (but certainly who KW asked for) Bridwell has a heavy sinker that KW loves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Gio Gonzalez is haunting KW at these meetings. Compromising Danks' value for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) Gio Gonzalez is haunting KW at these meetings. Compromising Danks' value for sure. Yeppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:19 PM) Gio Gonzalez is haunting KW at these meetings. Compromising Danks' value for sure. I don't know. You think people maybe think Danks is a more proven pitcher? Has post season mettle and has pitched his entire career thus far in a tough park for pitchers. Gio, while having electric stuff, hasn't done it but for 1 year plus he did it in Oakland (pitcher friendly park). A move of Danks better yield a very nice haul. Danks could easily slot into the #2 or #3 spot in nearly any rotation and be counted on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The Red Sox and White Sox met to discuss a possible Carlos Quentin trade, but there's no match at the moment, says Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe (on Twitter). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The Red Sox have some 'nice' prospects. Someone like Alex Wilson...doesn't really project as a #1 starter or anything, but is a very solid prospect and I could see middle of the rotation potential. They have several others like him...I've seen Wilson pitch and I like him. Casey Kelly is a higher ranked prospect, but I don't know much about him. I also like Josh Reddick. I love how he commands the plate and has a cannon in the outfield. The Sox really have no right fielders if CQ is moved. Reddick would slot in nicely in RF for the next 5+ years. In Boston, not sure he has a spot so he could be a moveable piece. Would love to work a deal to get Reddick + pitching prospect (a Wilson type). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Viciedo and Lillibridge are RFs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:22 PM) I don't know. You think people maybe think Danks is a more proven pitcher? Has post season mettle and has pitched his entire career thus far in a tough park for pitchers. Gio, while having electric stuff, hasn't done it but for 1 year plus he did it in Oakland (pitcher friendly park). A move of Danks better yield a very nice haul. Danks could easily slot into the #2 or #3 spot in nearly any rotation and be counted on. Gio had a very nice 2010 as well. Very close to last season. -Under control. Key issue for many teams. IMO, Danks is not a #2. He's a solid #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Red Sox/ White Sox talking about TCQ. I dont like Red Sox pitching prospects anywhere near as much as Baltimore's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (scenario @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 07:34 PM) http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles...0,2691910.story https://twitter.com/#!/nickcafardo/stat...201147677278208 Is anyone else concerned with the Sun article when they talked about Santos? They mentioned that the Os would have been in on him as well but didn't know he was available. Um, if we're going to flip him, shouldn't we let it be known he was available to get the best possible offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:39 PM) The Red Sox have some 'nice' prospects. Someone like Alex Wilson...doesn't really project as a #1 starter or anything, but is a very solid prospect and I could see middle of the rotation potential. They have several others like him...I've seen Wilson pitch and I like him. Casey Kelly is a higher ranked prospect, but I don't know much about him. I also like Josh Reddick. I love how he commands the plate and has a cannon in the outfield. The Sox really have no right fielders if CQ is moved. Reddick would slot in nicely in RF for the next 5+ years. In Boston, not sure he has a spot so he could be a moveable piece. Would love to work a deal to get Reddick + pitching prospect (a Wilson type). Wilson is decent. Kelly was one of the centerpieces of Gonzo deal. Fell off a lot last season. Reddick is nice player. If the Sox could pick up Reddick/Wilson that would be a very nice haul. Not happening though unless it's for Danks+TCQ or some kind of variance. BOS is one of the few teams that I believe would deal quality for Danks as they have a nice shot at resigning him. Dont know if there is interest there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:47 PM) Viciedo and Lillibridge are RFs. Why is Viciedo penciled in at RF? I'd rather have Dayan in LF. He probably got starts in RF because Pierre was playing the only position he could reasonably play (LF). And Lillibridge is a utility guy. He isn't a full time RF Reddick is a guy you put in RF and you'll get excellent defense and can play most every game (except perhaps against really tough lefties). If CQ is moved, then we either get someone back who can play RF, put a less than steller defensive player there or Rios enters the lineup (with De Aza moving to RF)....De Aza isn't much of a power bat so I'd rather have him in CF, but if Rios can (choking snort) rekindle his 25homer magic then we could carry a softer stick in RF. Just throwing stuff out there. I doubt Reddick is even in the picture with CQ, although I can absolutely see why the BoSox would like CQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (The Baconator @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:01 PM) Is anyone else concerned with the Sun article when they talked about Santos? They mentioned that the Os would have been in on him as well but didn't know he was available. Um, if we're going to flip him, shouldn't we let it be known he was available to get the best possible offer? He was not being shopped. Jays have chased him for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 12:03 AM) Why is Viciedo penciled in at RF? I'd rather have Dayan in LF. He probably got starts in RF because Pierre was playing the only position he could reasonably play (LF). And Lillibridge is a utility guy. He isn't a full time RF Reddick is a guy you put in RF and you'll get excellent defense and can play most every game (except perhaps against really tough lefties). If CQ is moved, then we either get someone back who can play RF, put a less than steller defensive player there or Rios enters the lineup (with De Aza moving to RF)....De Aza isn't much of a power bat so I'd rather have him in CF, but if Rios can (choking snort) rekindle his 25homer magic then we could carry a softer stick in RF. Just throwing stuff out there. I doubt Reddick is even in the picture with CQ, although I can absolutely see why the BoSox would like CQ. Viciedo's arm is made for RF. De Aza will be LF or come off of the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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