max power Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I have to imagine that this rumor was a bunch of bulls*** from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 12, 2012 -> 09:43 PM) That's interesting. Floyd certainly wouldn't have put much of a dent in their payroll. I have to imagine they're not willing to spend money AND give up talent for a guy that might improve them by one or two wins at best. They're just in the wrong division. I think the entire thing was BS to begin with. They were willing to spend money on Darvish, so I'm pretty sure the guy's explanation is some more BS to cover his previous BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 There was a big rumor in TOR they actually made the whole thing about DARVISH up to cover themselves with fans, that there in actuality had not been a legitimate attempt to get him and that the actual bidding number was nowhere in the vicinity of the Rangers. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 06:42 AM) There was a big rumor in TOR they actually made the whole thing about DARVISH up to cover themselves with fans, that there in actuality had not been a legitimate attempt to get him and that the actual bidding number was nowhere in the vicinity of the Rangers. The guy went from done deal press conference to Sox have medical concerns to Toronto ownership calls it offbecause of financial reasons. It was always BS. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 J4L is right, there's no way they're a single Floyd acquisition away from competing for the division. Â Maybe 2, possibly 3 players away, at a minimum. Now....2 wild cards, things become a lot more interesting, because other than the Angels/Rangers, there's no clear 2nd place team in the AL Central Division at the current moment, so very easily those 2 could both come out of the AL East. Â Even then, intense 4 way competition for those 3 spots. Will be interesting to see how Sergio stands up to the increased level of competition. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 So now the Score is reporting there are talks between Jays and Sox for Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 01:07 PM) So now the Score is reporting there are talks between Jays and Sox for Floyd. Â Sox - Jays were talking Floyd for a while now, it's just wasn't anything close to a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 01:11 PM) Sox - Jays were talking Floyd for a while now, it's just wasn't anything close to a deal. Â Yeah from random people on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 01:07 PM) So now the Score is reporting there are talks between Jays and Sox for Floyd.  Latest updates  http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=84276 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 2shay . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidetony Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 02:39 PM) jorgearangure Jorge Arangure Waiting for confirmation from Rob Lowe about Gavin Floyd trade to Blue Jays 5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply  I'd more likely trust if Sam Seaborn confirmed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsidetony @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 02:43 PM) I'd more likely trust if Sam Seaborn confirmed it. Â Yep. Went over my head. I'm no pop culture guy. I assume he's joking. Edited January 18, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsidetony @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 12:43 PM) I'd more likely trust if Sam Seaborn confirmed it. Â Like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Still going...  FarrellBall FARRELL BALL From my source: #Jays and #WhiteSox are still working on a possible Gavin Floyd trade... Still hearing a lot of Deck McGuire.. #FarrellBall  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012  FarrellBall FARRELL BALL From my source: #Jays and #WhiteSox are still working on a possible Gavin Floyd trade... Still hearing a lot of Deck McGuire.. #FarrellBall 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply  Our buddy is back.  Now where is the drunk/high Purdue guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 03:28 PM) Still going... FarrellBall FARRELL BALL From my source: #Jays and #WhiteSox are still working on a possible Gavin Floyd trade... Still hearing a lot of Deck McGuire.. #FarrellBall Didn't this guy say the trade before was a done deal, then say the Sox were concerned with some medicals, then said Toronto ownership said no way? One day he may actually be correct, but I'm not buying anything he tweets about this subject anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I think it was Morosi, tweeted today that the Red Sox are discussing Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 That was our interpretation, that the Sox were concerned about the health of Drabek (due to the reduced velocity and K numbers) and that he was the other key piece involved in the trade. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:21 PM) 2shay . My favorite rapper! Â Touche' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (southsidetony @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 02:43 PM) I'd more likely trust if Sam Seaborn confirmed it. Your newsletter, I'd like to sign up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 At some point I really think KW will sell low on Floyd and sign Jackson. Â I am not sure why or what to think of this but that is what I think will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 03:15 PM) At some point I really think KW will sell low on Floyd and sign Jackson. I am not sure why or what to think of this but that is what I think will happen.   I wouldn't mind Jackson being back, but not under the scenario you are thinking about. I think E Jax has priced himself way too high and there is NO reason to let Floyd go without a major return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 09:15 AM) At some point I really think KW will sell low on Floyd and sign Jackson. I am not sure why or what to think of this but that is what I think will happen.  The whole Edwin Jackson free agency fascinates me. He's never been a free agent before and been traded for a billion times. Obviously people had previously wanted this guy but then there is the whole Boras wrinkle. I gotta imagine the whole Blue Jays/Red Sox interest in Floyd is stemming from Boras demanding 4 years for E-Jax and them rather having two years of Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 09:15 AM) At some point I really think KW will sell low on Floyd and sign Jackson. I am not sure why or what to think of this but that is what I think will happen.  There is zero chance of this happening, the signing of EJax that is. Every source I have talked to or listened to, Scott Merkin, Chris Rongey, Scott Gregor, MLBTradeRumors.com, etc, they all point to the White Sox budgeted payroll for this year at about $100M. It has been reported numerous times that KW's job was to get payroll down from about $127M last year to $100M this year. As the White Sox stand right now, they have about 12 players that accounts for 97M, and 13 players that will make pre-arb salaries, according to the new CBA that is to be 480K this year. So add that up and you get about $103M. Thats already about $3M over budget and there is no way KW is going to trade Floyd, making $7.5M then add EJax making $10M or so, then his payroll would be net $3M+ on top of the $3M hes already over budget for. In a rebuild year where you will be lucky to draw 1.5M fans and win 75 games, there is absoultely no reason to be even a dime over budgeted payroll. Sorry bro, money talks! I am all for trading Floyd though and getting prospects and saving the $7.5M, just thrown Stewart in the rotation, forget about Ejax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (joeynach @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 10:40 AM) There is zero chance of this happening, the signing of EJax that is. Every source I have talked to or listened to, Scott Merkin, Chris Rongey, Scott Gregor, MLBTradeRumors.com, etc, they all point to the White Sox budgeted payroll for this year at about $100M. It has been reported numerous times that KW's job was to get payroll down from about $127M last year to $100M this year. As the White Sox stand right now, they have about 12 players that accounts for 97M, and 13 players that will make pre-arb salaries, according to the new CBA that is to be 480K this year. So add that up and you get about $103M. Thats already about $3M over budget and there is no way KW is going to trade Floyd, making $7.5M then add EJax making $10M or so, then his payroll would be net $3M+ on top of the $3M hes already over budget for. In a rebuild year where you will be lucky to draw 1.5M fans and win 75 games, there is absoultely no reason to be even a dime over budgeted payroll. Sorry bro, money talks! I am all for trading Floyd though and getting prospects and saving the $7.5M, just thrown Stewart in the rotation, forget about Ejax. Â Unfortunately I still think the Sox have a solid team and the move I pointed out serves two purposes makes the current team stronger and builds for the future. Â If Jackson wants to come back to Chicago I think there are ways to get it done. Â I also think there are four guys that know the White Sox budget and none of them write for a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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