I know the A's have been playing well as of late, but BB isn't usually one to have delusions of grandeur. Not sure if Colon burned bridges here when he disappeared for a time, but bringing back Bart could be another cheaper solution.

Meanwhile, if the Rangers get Hamels, we are really in trouble.

Meanwhile, if the Rangers get Hamels, we are really in trouble.

 

 

We have to play them again soon (Rangers at the Ballpark), but anything would be better than Hamels or Greinke going to the Tigers.

Edited July 15, 201213 yr by caulfield12

Meanwhile, if the Rangers get Hamels, we are the AL is really in trouble.

 

FIFY

Because he's not going to blow a clubhouse in 2 months before he hits free agency.

 

Do you really think he has the rationale sense to stop and think in the moment about what the repercussions of his actions will be?

Do you really think he has the rationale sense to stop and think in the moment about what the repercussions of his actions will be?

 

Absolutely. Besides how exactly can a player blowup a clubhouse in two months? There are reasons I wouldn't want Zambrano, but the fear that he's going to create chaos in the clubhouse isn't one of them when the alternative is Dylan Axelrod blowing up on the mound.

Edited July 16, 201213 yr by Marty34

Absolutely. Besides how exactly can a player blowup a clubhouse in two months? There are reasons I wouldn't want Zambrano, but the fear that he's going to create chaos in the clubhouse isn't one of them when the alternative is Dylan Axelrod blowing up on the mound.

 

Then why has his whole career been punctuated by doing the exact opposite? Rational players don't often punch teammates and have multiple public meltdowns, by definition.

Then why has his whole career been punctuated by doing the exact opposite? Rational players don't often punch teammates and have multiple public meltdowns, by definition.

 

If it came down to it you'd rather Axelrod have 10 more starts?

If it came down to it you'd rather Axelrod have 10 more starts?

 

Are you sure you'd get 10 starts out of Zambrano?

Are you sure you'd get 10 starts out of Zambrano?

Since May 18th his ERA in the NL is 7.10. And he has Ozzie as his babysitter. I know the tv show and he said he's now mature, but I doubt it. He's going to snap. He may go on a roll or he may be hot garbage. I don't think anyone will touch him and I don't think the Marlins would trade him anyway. They don't want a sign of surrender.

Are you sure you'd get 10 starts out of Zambrano?

 

Anything is a plus when the alternative is 10 starts for Axelrod.

Anything is a plus when the alternative is 10 starts for Axelrod.

 

In the last two months Zambrano's era is a full run higher than Axe, pitching half of his games in one of the best pitchers ballpark in baseball. In this case, it would not be.

•The Phillies' forthcoming offer to Hamels is "expected to be in the ballpark that they know the left-hander will want, this close to free agency," tweets ESPN's Buster Olney. I'm guessing Hamels would have his eye on a contract worth $23-25MM annually over six-plus years, if he reaches free agency. - Tim Dierkes

 

If that's anywhere near the vicinity Greinke will asking (and one would guess it would start at $20 million and up), then forget trading for him or extending him.

 

Btw, Rangers are supposedly really after Hamels at the moment if the extension doesn't get signed.

 

 

 

Trade Targets Who Could Bring Draft Pick Compensation

By Tim Dierkes [July 15 at 8:26pm CST]

Recently, Joel Sherman of the New York Post talked to an NL GM who said he does not expect a robust market for rental players this summer. Under the previous collective bargaining agreement, players acquired in their contract years could still be more than rentals due to draft pick compensation. But due to a rule in the new CBA, a rental is truly a rental for the 2012 trade deadline: traded players are not eligible for draft pick compensation. As Sherman notes, that adds extra appeal for someone like Matt Garza -- a team acquiring Garza can enjoy him for the rest of 2012 and all of 2013 and then receive a draft pick as compensation if he departs as a free agent.

 

Keep in mind that for a team to receive draft pick compensation for a departing free agent after the 2012 season, a qualifying offer in the $12.5MM range must be tendered. Since that amount represents an average of the top 125 salaries, it will increase every year. It could be dangerous to surrender quality prospects for Garza now partly due to the assumption that he'll be worthy of a $13-14MM qualifying offer after the 2013 season.

 

Still, take a look at our list of players who, like Garza, project to be eligible for free agency after the 2013 season. Which could be acquired with a partial eye on draft pick compensation after '13? Chase Utley has a good amount of no-trade protection, and given time missed due to injury and reduced production, it'd be optimistic to expect a qualifying offer. Hunter Pence, on the other hand, is a decent bet for such an offer. Among position players, Corey Hart also has a shot. Both outfielders figure to be part of their team's 2013 plans, however.

 

Aside from Garza, Josh Johnson is a starting pitcher to consider. Johnson has been uncharacteristically hittable this year, but he has been healthy and stands as a candidate for a qualifying offer after '13, should the Marlins decline to extend him again. Despite their all-in offseason, the Marlins appear a long shot for the playoffs, it is possible they could move Johnson for MLB-ready players. Jason Vargas has been a hot name on the trade market. While I think GMs would find it appealing to control Vargas for 2013, I doubt they would have any expectation of making him a qualifying offer afterward.

 

We haven't discussed Justin Upton types, players who are under control beyond 2013 and seem to be reasonable candidates for future draft pick compensation. Those are rare players. Looking only at trade targets eligible for free agency after 2013, the qualifying offer will be a pretty high bar, and future draft pick compensation can't be a primary consideration for an acquiring team.

Edited July 16, 201213 yr by caulfield12

Go get Liriano, Kenny.

So Greinke pulled from his start Wednesday to "recharge his batteries" apparently...

 

And the plot thickens...

white-sox-are-latest-to-enter-greinke-derby

What do they even offer for him?

Floyd for Zack??????????

Jon Heyman on the rundown reports their in on Grienke as well. (Didnt read the article above, hopefully its not by Heyman or id feel dumb)

 

Hard to tell what we'd give up but I'd be one happy panda should it happen....Mitchell, Castro, and Jones?? If Crains expected to come back healthy I wouldn't be against trading Jones.

Would be interesting to see AJ catch him, since they dislike one another...

According to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports, the White Sox have emerged as a potential suitor for Zack Greinke.

The American League Central-leading White Sox are looking to make a serious charge at a playoff spot and have already spun one excellent deal to land Kevin Youkilis. But they might not have enough bullets in their farm system to do another high-profile swap. Greinke, an impending free agent, has a 3.57 ERA and 117 strikeouts in 116 innings this season. The Braves, Angels, Rangers and Orioles also have interest.

 

 

Rotoworld

if danks comes back and floyd is okay we would have one scary rotation with greinke.

 

peavy/sale/greinke/danks/floyd

 

yikes.

1. James Shields

2. Zack Greinke

3. Anyone other than Axelrod

if danks comes back and floyd is okay we would have one scary rotation with greinke.

 

peavy/sale/greinke/danks/floyd

 

yikes.

 

I'm sure Floyd is fine. His reported injury, "forearm stiffness" could mean "he misses his wife"

if danks comes back and floyd is okay we would have one scary rotation with greinke.

 

peavy/sale/greinke/danks/floyd

 

yikes.

 

I'd rather have Q in the rotation over Floyd..

I don't see how the Sox could get Greinke without giving up Viciedo.