hogan873 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 How long will a broken collarbone keep Grienke out? Non-throwing side, but still that's gotta take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 07:57 AM) How long will a broken collarbone keep Grienke out? Non-throwing side, but still that's gotta take a while. Around the 6-8 weeks mark. It's standard for fractures. The clavicle though has a higher incidenece of non-union fractures since it's a long thin bone. Thisis where it doesn't healand surgeries and other complications arise. This doesn't usually happen in healthy individuals but it is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I don't know if Greinke was throwing at him on purpose, but I wouldn't put it past him. I don't care what the score of the game was or what inning it was. This is Zach Greinke, he has done some off the wall s***. Â If he was throwing at him, he might want to pick someone else next time. Like someone who wasn't a former linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (KG#1 @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 07:18 AM) Eh, there is previous stuff involved, he shouldn't be suspended for a month. Q has been hit so many times in the past and I'm not sure he has ever charged the mound before. I think Greinke had it coming with Q. Â How exactly did Greinke have a broken collarbone coming to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Mattingly had the same idea, that Quentin should be out for as long as Greinke is... Â Of course, that will never fly. But he specifically pointed out the situation in the game, and how Quentin is nearly always diving out over the plate, which is 90% of why he gets hit so often in the first place. Â Greinke's a punk, but Quentin should know by now that there are consequences to his batting approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 That looked as intentional as it gets to me. 3-2 count, don't wanna make a mistake, want to put him on 1st base anyways, have recent issues with him...may as well just hit him and send a message. Wouldn't be surprised if some of it is about Quentin crowding the plate, but Quentin obviously feels it's his plate and he's willing to fight for it. Â I realized 2 things when I watched it - #1, Quentin looks good; #2, I miss TCQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 greinke's an idiot lowering his shoulder into a former stanford football player who's built like a truck though, given his history, im a bit shocked CQ didn't shatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I agree with Don Mattingly, Quentin deserves to be suspended for as long as Greinke is out. That was a stupid f***ing charge of the mound. A 3-2 pitch in a 2-2 game. And Greinke didn't say s*** until Q stood in front of the plate glaring at him. He's smarter than that and a better guy than that. The same temper that cost him the MVP just made him look like a total d-bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Quentin needs anger management, but I can't say I didn't love him jacking Greinke...I'm sure AJ placed a call to Q after the game  And I am sorry Matt Kemp, but CQ would destroy you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kageman129 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 09:34 AM) How exactly did Greinke have a broken collarbone coming to him? Â Not the broken collarbone, thats a freak thing that happened with it. I was referring to Quentin charging the mound. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 10:32 AM) I agree with Don Mattingly, Quentin deserves to be suspended for as long as Greinke is out. That was a stupid f***ing charge of the mound. A 3-2 pitch in a 2-2 game. And Greinke didn't say s*** until Q stood in front of the plate glaring at him. He's smarter than that and a better guy than that. The same temper that cost him the MVP just made him look like a total d-bag. What's the longest anyone's ever been suspended for a brawl before in MLB? Milton Bradley perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kageman129 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 09:45 AM) That looked as intentional as it gets to me. 3-2 count, don't wanna make a mistake, want to put him on 1st base anyways, have recent issues with him...may as well just hit him and send a message. Wouldn't be surprised if some of it is about Quentin crowding the plate, but Quentin obviously feels it's his plate and he's willing to fight for it. I realized 2 things when I watched it - #1, Quentin looks good; #2, I miss TCQ  I agree with everything you posted. Quentin has shown he doesn't care to get hit and will crowd the plate over and over. This one had more to it than just getting hit by the pitch so Quentin charged the mound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (KG#1 @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 09:42 AM) Not the broken collarbone, thats a freak thing that happened with it. I was referring to Quentin charging the mound. Â It wasn't a freak thing on a normal baseball play. It was an injury in a physical fight, which tends to happen. And that fight was started by Quentin for no real good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 10:05 AM) It wasn't a freak thing on a normal baseball play. It was an injury in a physical fight, which tends to happen. And that fight was started by Quentin for no real good reason. Â Greinke hit him for no real good reason as well. This is a guy who hit 2 batters last year and 4 in 2011. He faced 1,583 batters in those 2 years. Â I'm not going to say Greinke had what was coming to him or say what Quentin did was right, but you shouldn't hit a guy that's much bigger, faster, and stronger than you. I think you learn that in first grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Right now, I really wish I were a Braves or, in a perfect world, a Nats fan. Â My God, what fun teams. This weekend's series is must-watch for baseball fans. Edited April 12, 2013 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Greinke grabbed for CQ's balls. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 07:46 AM) What's the longest anyone's ever been suspended for a brawl before in MLB? Milton Bradley perhaps? That one...or what about Crazy Carl's meltdown in beantown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 10:46 AM) Greinke grabbed for CQ's balls.  To be fair, if I ever met TCQ, I would probably do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 08:12 AM) Greinke hit him for no real good reason as well. This is a guy who hit 2 batters last year and 4 in 2011. He faced 1,583 batters in those 2 years. Â I'm not going to say Greinke had what was coming to him or say what Quentin did was right, but you shouldn't hit a guy that's much bigger, faster, and stronger than you. I think you learn that in first grade. This is all based on the assumption that it was intentional. Has Greinke copped to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I also wish more people would go the Torii Hunter route and throw the f***ing ball back at the pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 08:45 AM) That looked as intentional as it gets to me. 3-2 count, don't wanna make a mistake, want to put him on 1st base anyways, have recent issues with him...may as well just hit him and send a message. Wouldn't be surprised if some of it is about Quentin crowding the plate, but Quentin obviously feels it's his plate and he's willing to fight for it. I realized 2 things when I watched it - #1, Quentin looks good; #2, I miss TCQ Cmon now. Yeah, let's put a guy on in a full count in a one run game with no outs. You're forcing him to hit his way on.  For Quentin to think that was on purpose - that's just the height of baseball stupidity right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Q is built like a tank. Why would Greinke ever think to lower his shoulder to that? My goodness, he would have been better off just letting Q tackle him & hope to get him in a head lock. :lol: Â Q would have been a psycho linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Really not getting all the Greinke love and defending...it's actually pretty f***ing nauseating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 12, 2013 -> 10:50 AM) To be fair, if I ever met TCQ, I would probably do the same thing. Valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I know we've seen Q crowd the plate but go back and take another look at the AB, he's no where near the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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