LittleHurt05 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 QUOTE (Brian @ May 31, 2013 -> 07:24 AM) Rosenthal and Mujica both had pitched 5 days in a row. Should've kept Maness in who toyed with Butler the previous inning. One could argue that's brutal managing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 (edited) Miggy Cabrera just destroying MLB pitchers this month. 12 homers, Chris Davis with 10...facing each other tonight. .400 average with RISP over the last 2 1/2 seasons for DET. Edited June 1, 2013 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 (edited) 5-3 ballgame, Valverde gives up a solo homer to Markakis. 5-4 Tigers, no out, bottom 9 Jones single Davis single Valverde is going to blow this. Weiters pops out, 1st and 3rd, 1 out. Hardy pops out, 2 out. Dickerson 3-run homer. O's win. Edited June 1, 2013 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 29, 2013 -> 10:15 PM) A lot of us predicted this disappointment, but were waved off by the "rebuilding" crowd. To be fair, the Sox have only 1 more postseason win than the Royals in the last 7 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 31, 2013 -> 09:57 PM) To be fair, the Sox have only 1 more postseason win than the Royals in the last 7 seasons. How many postseason games have the Royals played in the last 27 seasons? To be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 (edited) Here on June 1, the league average for runs scored in the AL is 4.47 per game. Det 5.15 Cle 4.93 Min 4.27 KC 3.94 Sox 3.52 Sox are almost a full run per game under league average. Last in the AL. Runs allowed average is 4.42 per game. Det 4.00 KC 4.13 Sox 4.13 Cle 4.54 Min 4.77 Edited June 1, 2013 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Ubaldo Jimenez has been dominant against TB today...shades of the Rockies' version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 03:36 PM) Ubaldo Jimenez has been dominant against TB today...shades of the Rockies' version. He's either throwing 99 or this post is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 31, 2013 -> 09:57 PM) To be fair, the Sox have only 1 more postseason win than the Royals in the last 7 seasons. 7 is quite the peculiar number. Why not look at the last 8 seasons? Oh wait, then you'd have to add 11 postseason wins for the Sox. That would ruin your agenda wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) 7 is quite the peculiar number. Why not look at the last 8 seasons? Oh wait, then you'd have to add 11 postseason wins for the Sox. That would ruin your agenda wouldn't it? Weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 05:28 PM) Weak Why's that weak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The White Sox have been a far better team to be a fan of than KC over those past 8 seasons and it looks like a neutral proposition for this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) 7 is quite the peculiar number. Why not look at the last 8 seasons? Oh wait, then you'd have to add 11 postseason wins for the Sox. That would ruin your agenda wouldn't it? Everyone that posts here has an agenda. Yours is further from reality than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 07:31 PM) The White Sox have been a far better team to be a fan of than KC over those past 8 seasons and it looks like a neutral proposition for this season And what has that gotten them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 08:09 PM) Everyone that posts here has an agenda. Yours is further from reality than most. What's my agenda? I believe that the team can rebuild the offense in the offseason? That has nothing to do with refusing to acknowledge the failures of this organization since 2005. It's definitely been an ugly stretch for us, but let's not compare it to the Royals' epic run of losing. Once you opnely try to compare the two you've confirmed your agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 08:09 PM) Everyone that posts here has an agenda. Yours is further from reality than most. Just like this post: QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 31, 2013 -> 09:57 PM) To be fair, the Sox have only 1 more postseason win than the Royals in the last 7 seasons. Still waiting for an answer: QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 31, 2013 -> 11:10 PM) How many postseason games have the Royals played in the last 27 seasons? To be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 08:10 PM) And what has that gotten them? I don't give a s*** what it has gotten the White Sox. It has gotten me far more enjoyment than I would have had as a Royals fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 09:43 PM) What's my agenda? I believe that the team can rebuild the offense in the offseason? That has nothing to do with refusing to acknowledge the failures of this organization since 2005. It's definitely been an ugly stretch for us, but let's not compare it to the Royals' epic run of losing. Once you opnely try to compare the two you've confirmed your agenda. Considering it's the 29th ranked offense in MLB, what are the chances the Sox can rebuild their offense in one offseason? It's just not going to happen. Just like John Danks was being counted on to be an upgrade to the 2013 rotation by some here. As far as comparing the Royals to the Sox, the Sox are a high revenue team they should not be compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) JeffPassan@JeffPassanTwo months into the season, a reliever leads Minnesota in strikeouts. Yes, Glen Perkins' 31 (in 19 2/3 IP) are more than any Twin starter. Edited June 2, 2013 by LittleHurt05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Jared Burton is tied for 2nd with 26 pitch to contact impact baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Tigers lose. Bullpen couldn't bail out Porcello. Also hit into 4 DPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Royals-- Games 1-27: 17-10 Games 28-54: 6-21 That's baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 54-Game Records (Runs Scored- Runs Against): Det 30-24 - (283-215) +68 Cle 29-25 1 (266-245) +21 Min 25-29 5 (237-252) -15 Sox 24-30 6 (186-221) -35 KC 23-31 7 (210-219) -9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 08:09 PM) Everyone that posts here has an agenda. Yours is further from reality than most. This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile. Can someone actually upstage you in this department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Young Royals Hosmer and Moustakas need to grow up June 3 BY SAM MELLINGER The Kansas City Star The new baseball lives of Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer include no more hype. Order Reprints FILE PHOTO BY JOHN SLEEZER | THE KANSAS CITY STAR In 2009, minor-leaguers Mike Moustakas (left) and Eric Hosmer were the prospects upon whom the Royals pinned their hopes for the future. Today, the Royals need the two players to live up to that potential. No more quotes from anonymous scouts about Moustakas’ “light pole power” or Hosmer’s “can’t miss talent.” No more talk about how young players take time to develop, or misguided defenses about society’s need for instant gratification, especially the segment of society that’s waited through the longest playoff drought in North American sports and has so far seen a combined 2,526 plate appearances of Hosmer and Moustakas often being overmatched. No more. George Brett’s new job as Royals hitting coach is a clear message that Moustakas and Hosmer need to grow up. Take the training wheels off. Scholarships are over. Hosmer is 23 and Moustakas 24. They are young players, sure, but you may have noticed that Texas’ Jurickson Profar hit the go-ahead home run against the Royals on Sunday. Profar is 20 years old, and now has more home runs in 40 plate appearances this season than Hosmer has in 207. No more blaming it on youth, because just in the last three years we’ve seen Justin Upton, Mike Trout, Giancarlo Stanton, Pablo Sandoval, Buster Posey, Andrew McCutchen, Bryce Harper, Evan Longoria, Carlos Gonzalez, Billy Butler (yes, Billy) and others turn in star numbers at Moustakas’ age or younger. The truism about the Royals’ latest attempted march into baseball relevancy has been that the whole thing is dependent upon Hosmer and Moustakas being good players. They don’t need to be Hall of Famers, or even perennial All-Stars, but if they become Juan LeBron and Dee Brown then nothing else matters. It all falls apart, many baseball people lose their jobs, and Dayton Moore’s “Process” is remembered in Kansas City like Carl Peterson’s five-year plan. They must at least be thinking about the worst-case scenario during private moments in the Royals’ front office: what if we were wrong about these guys? The Royals have no safety net here, and are operating accordingly. Hosmer and Moustakas are important enough and scuffling enough that in the last eight months the Royals have fired three hitting coaches and this is where their new baseball lives are interesting. Because Brett is in uniform now, and if Hosmer and Moustakas continue to underwhelm nobody will blame The Greatest Royal Of All-Time. Brett is the first hitting coach with the stature and nature to call them out. The first with a big league resume they look up to. No more excuses, in other words. No more blaming it on a lack of veteran leadership, because Butler and Alex Gordon are friendly examples of players who’ve navigated what Hosmer and Moustakas are struggling with. In the first few days of Brett’s new job, you don’t have to read too hard to see code words about Hosmer and Moustakas needing to transition from Baseball America champions to legitimate big league sluggers. Dayton Moore: “The fierce competitiveness that George brought (in his playing days) is something I feel we need in our clubhouse.” Ned Yost: “It’s a special mindset that you have to have to be able to accomplish all he has.” Brett himself: “Get rid of the (baby) bottles, let’s go.” This is all directed at Moustakas and Hosmer, and these are drastic measures because the Royals know the inconvenient truth. Nothing else matters if these two continue to flounder. David Glass changed his penny-hoarding ways in 2006 and started spending like a legitimate small-market owner. He hired Moore, who turned a farm system that had been an industry joke into the best in baseball. An international program that was effectively non-existent became one of the best. The Royals went from running out of bonus money after four or five rounds to paying third-round pick Wil Myers $2 million in 2009. Sal Perez, Alex Gordon, Billy Butler and Alcides Escobar are all signed long-term to club-friendly terms. James Shields and others have moved the Royals from one of the five worst in team ERA last year to one of the five best this year. And none of that matters if Moustakas and Hosmer don’t hit. The Royals will continue to lose 90-plus games if they were wrong about Moustakas and Hosmer. There is no Plan B here. Not until the next leadership group inherits those club-friendly contracts and a minor league system with some more potential stars. So far, we’ve seen flashes of the potential that made both men rich and famous. Moustakas hit 20 homers and 34 doubles last year. Hosmer finished third in Rookie of the Year voting in 2011. But the fuller picture is ugly. Moustakas is hitting .186 this year and his on-base percentage entering Sunday’s game (.293) was the eighth-worst in baseball among players with at least 1,000 plate appearances since 2011. Hosmer is hitting .242 the last two seasons and has somehow turned into a singles hitter: only Ichiro and Juan Pierre have fewer extra-base hits this year among regulars at a corner position. There is still enough talent here that most within baseball expect Moustakas and Hosmer to each become good big leaguers – maybe very good, perhaps even great. They’ll get their chances, too, no matter what they do with the Royals. But this team’s only chance to be good in the immediate future is if Moustakas and Hosmer do it soon. Brett’s new job is a clear sign that the good-job-good-effort spirit of encouragement has its limits. This is Moustakas’ and Hosmer’s new baseball life. A franchise and its fans wait to see if it makes any difference. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/03/42699...l#storylink=cpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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