May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:04 PM) Unlike with AJP the Sox didnt really give him a halfway decent offer. He had to take the cash and go. It turned out to be a horrible decision. GMAB man, if he was willing to sign for a "Halfway decent offer" the team would quite readily have popped 3/$36 for him. He wanted to hit the FA market and see what was out there, and a team offered him basically $22 million for waiving his no trade clause.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:14 PM) Toronto is a pretty nice place. In the summer, I would prefer it to Miami. Don't have to deal with hurricanes and stupid tourists.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) Don't have to deal with hurricanes and stupid tourists. Though he is probably getting hit a lot harder by taxes versus in Miami.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:33 PM) Though he is probably getting hit a lot harder by taxes versus in Miami. From my experience last weekend, Toronto's taxes make Chicago's seem cheap.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:37 PM) From my experience last weekend, Toronto's taxes make Chicago's seem cheap. When I was last up there about 10 years ago, even their sales tax was 15%
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) When I was last up there about 10 years ago, even their sales tax was 15% Yeah, that's how it was, somewhere between 13-15% tax anywhere we ate. Also, a case of beer cost like $45 because of liquor taxes.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) When I was last up there about 10 years ago, even their sales tax was 15% When guys get traded, isn't there some sort of provision, at least with the Canadian team, in regards to taxes and exchange rate to where the Blue Jays would have to even it out? I know at one point there was.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:48 PM) Yeah, that's how it was, somewhere between 13-15% tax anywhere we ate. Also, a case of beer cost like $45 because of liquor taxes. People are willing to pay well over $200 a case at USCF if you include tips.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:51 PM) People are willing to pay well over $200 a case at USCF if you include tips. As is the case at many other baseball stadiums including the Rogers Centre. I don't see how that's relevant to my store-bought beer comparison, but OK.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:49 PM) When guys get traded, isn't there some sort of provision, at least with the Canadian team, in regards to taxes and exchange rate to where the Blue Jays would have to even it out? I know at one point there was. The salary is guaranteed and paid in dollars. That is all.
May 7, 201312 yr Why are people concerned with MARK! ? Guy got paid. He continues to get paid. He was a good player for us, he is gone. Deal with it.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:12 PM) GMAB man, if he was willing to sign for a "Halfway decent offer" the team would quite readily have popped 3/$36 for him. He wanted to hit the FA market and see what was out there, and a team offered him basically $22 million for waiving his no trade clause. You can take a break if you want, I'll give one to you. However you are wrong, we offered him dogs*** on purpose.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 7, 2013 -> 03:39 PM) You can take a break if you want, I'll give one to you. However you are wrong, we offered him dogs*** on purpose. We didn't make him an offer. We let him go out and see what market value was for him, and he found a team willing to vastly overpay for him if he gave up his NTC. He was willing to make that sacrifice.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 7, 2013 -> 02:44 PM) We didn't make him an offer. We let him go out and see what market value was for him, and he found a team willing to vastly overpay for him if he gave up his NTC. He was willing to make that sacrifice. Yes they did.
May 7, 201312 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 02:50 PM) ORLY? Do tell. Go back to the old thread. They told him exactly what they would pay him and it was a no brainer to take what was about twice as much from Miami. I admit it wasnt a formal offer which they never really made because their value of him wasnt even close to what other teams was. Edited May 7, 201312 yr by RockRaines
May 9, 201312 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 4, 2013 -> 08:27 AM) 2013: $11,000,000 2014: $18,000,000 2015: $19,000,000 I'm not shedding any tears for #56. What a ridiculous contract! Good for Mark!...but ridiculous.
May 21, 201312 yr I don't believe I've watched a player enjoying playing any sport as much as Mark looked like he enjoyed playing baseball.
May 22, 201312 yr Do you think Mark may just retire if he keeps getting rocked? He seems like a proud guy to me. Of course some crafty lefties have good years and some bad years. maybe he'll ride out the storm.
May 22, 201312 yr Mark is toast in AL East or AL for that matter anymore. Edited May 22, 201312 yr by Soxfest
May 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 22, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) Do you think Mark may just retire if he keeps getting rocked? He seems like a proud guy to me. Of course some crafty lefties have good years and some bad years. maybe he'll ride out the storm. Not with how insanely backloaded that deal was.
May 23, 201312 yr Author He pitched well today. I listened for most of the game. The announcers mentioned the game 3 weeks or so ago where he gave up 7 runs to the Rays in a single inning and came back to get 11 of the next 12 outs and kept the team in the game, as they rallied to win 8-7. Those two runs were questionable. Originally, they were unearned, as Izturis made a foolhardy try at a grounder that he should have just put in his pocket and it ended up rolling into the outfield.
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