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6/23- Sox @ KC

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They have an extra roster spot on Friday. Even though they don't need a 6th starter, maybe they give Johnson a look against the Indians.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:02 PM)
So this means Axelrod doesn't have trade value? Haha, can't believe they thought he was better fitted to be a starter than Santiago

 

 

The way this season has gone, they trade Dunn and he goes on to be the MVP for someone in the NL the next 18 months.

 

Oh, well.

 

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:06 PM)
They have an extra roster spot on Friday. Even though they don't need a 6th starter, maybe they give Johnson a look against the Indians.

 

 

It might be too early.

 

OTOH, there aren't a lot of other possible candidates...unless they went with someone like Castro or Rienzo first.

 

 

Why does it seem like all White Sox games go 3 1/2 or 4 hours these days?

 

DJ said their (Royals) supplemental first round draft pick's going to go ahead and have that hip surgery. Pretty ballsy to draft someone so high you know's going under the knife.

Edited by caulfield12

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 03:02 PM)
So this means Axelrod doesn't have trade value? Haha, can't believe they thought he was better fitted to be a starter than Santiago

I don't think it was that Axelrod was better. He's right handed.

De Aza gets throwed out a ton.

DeAza, the tribal council has spoken.

 

Please pack your bags and prepare to leave the island. You've got 2 minutes to say your goodbyes.

Edited by caulfield12

Maybe Alexei should lead off. Better OBP and more stolen bases

Sox find more ways to suck. Pitchout. You're out.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:15 PM)
Sox find more ways to suck. Pitchout. You're out.

 

 

DJ and Farmer seem to think DeAza was going entirely on his own...not putting that on Ventura.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:15 PM)
Maybe Alexei should lead off. Better OBP and more stolen bases

 

 

But Alexei's not going to steal bags at will.

 

He does it sneakily, but he's not a pure basestealer. He'd probably have a lower percentage than DeAza if he was EXPECTED to steal bases from that spot in the line-up.

 

Down goes Konerko.

 

3 K's in the inning. More bad baserunning.

I'm done. Can't watch any more bad baseball. Sox might still win this game but are just a team that is painful to watch.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 03:20 PM)
But Alexei's not going to steal bags at will.

 

He does it sneakily, but he's not a pure basestealer. He'd probably have a lower percentage than DeAza if he was EXPECTED to steal bases from that spot in the line-up.

 

Down goes Konerko.

 

3 K's in the inning. More bad baserunning.

 

Is De Aza expected to steal bags? Is anybody on this team expected to steal bags? I don't think so.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:22 PM)
Is De Aza expected to steal bags? Is anybody on this team expected to steal bags? I don't think so.

 

 

The leadoff hitter typically is expected to be capable of stealing 30 bases, yeah.

 

Unless he's on the Oakland A's.

Just gave them a free double or single.

 

That's why Jones can't ever be the closer. Walks. And too many of them.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 03:25 PM)
The leadoff hitter typically is expected to be capable of stealing 30 bases, yeah.

 

Unless he's on the Oakland A's.

 

I didn't ask that. I asked if De Aza was expected to steal bags? He has attempted to steal 11 times I think, that is horrible for a lead off hitter. So I don't expect him to steam

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 04:25 PM)
The leadoff hitter typically is expected to be capable of stealing 30 bases, yeah.

 

Unless he's on the Oakland A's.

Last year, 15 teams got fewer than 25 stolen bases from their leadoff slot.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:29 PM)
Last year, 15 teams got fewer than 25 stolen bases from their leadoff slot.

 

 

I'm not talking about perception, not the actuality.

 

Like power forwards should rebound (the anti Bosh) and point guards should be creative passers.

 

Doesn't mean it's going to happen, but that's part of the reason we've spent so much time and energy and resources drafting players like Mitchell, Walker and now Tim Anderson. Because KW/Hahn have always desired that prototypical guy, ever since Pods became an ineffective basestealer and they also tried to force Pierre into the role when he was no longer effective in that role.

 

 

Finally, some of those teams without a lot of steals from leadoff....I'm going to bet they came from teams where they had strong 3-6 hitters i the order and they didn't want to sacrifice outs on the basepaths. Whereas this Sox team has to be more creative in finding ways to score.

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Kep walked miracle.

Gordon!! What a shot

Gordo!

6-4 Sox Beckham smoked that to CF

Gordo looks good.

Nice by beckham, hawk about to orgasm... LOL

 

Great to see consistency from Beckham this year

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 01:34 PM)
I'm not talking about perception, not the actuality.

 

Like power forwards should rebound (the anti Bosh) and point guards should be creative passers.

 

Doesn't mean it's going to happen, but that's part of the reason we've spent so much time and energy and resources drafting players like Mitchell, Walker and now Tim Anderson. Because KW/Hahn have always desired that prototypical guy, ever since Pods became an ineffective basestealer and they also tried to force Pierre into the role when he was no longer effective in that role.

 

 

Finally, some of those teams without a lot of steals from leadoff....I'm going to bet they came from teams where they had strong 3-6 hitters i the order and they didn't want to sacrifice outs on the basepaths. Whereas this Sox team has to be more creative in finding ways to score.

Maybe we should deal with reality. The farther we get away from the PED era , if that's even possible, speed , pitching and defense becomes more important at as many positions as possible .A lead off man stealing bases is not all that important. Over all team speed is.

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