Would have been cool to see Wilkins called up, but Morel makes more sense.

Don't forget that a waiver trade could still be a possibility, even if the Sox don't get what they want.

Would have been cool to see Wilkins called up, but Morel makes more sense.

Give him some time. Decent chance we'll see him at the end of this month, but he's just barely arrived in Charlotte.

 

Plus that would require a 40 man spot and we don't want to blow one of those on Wilkins if we're trading for people on other teams' 40-man rosters.

Don't forget that a waiver trade could still be a possibility, even if the Sox don't get what they want.

 

 

It will be interesting to see who (or if someone) claims Ramirez, Dunn and John Danks, if it gets to that point...the whole blocking thing.

 

We should be perfectly willing to let go of John Danks for basically nothing, just like Rios came here for nothing.

 

From the history of pitchers with shoulder injuries, we can speculate all we want about him building up value for a trade in 2014 or 2015 or whatever year, but it's better just to clear that money off the books.

 

Best case scenario, he's a #3 guy, or strong 2 on a weak team. But there's just as much of a chance he remains a 4 and overpaid for that level of production that we could get from Quintana or Santiago for 1/10th the cost.

Edited July 3, 201312 yr by caulfield12

It will be interesting to see who (or if someone) claims Ramirez, Dunn and John Danks, if it gets to that point...the whole blocking thing.

 

We should be perfectly willing to let go of John Danks for basically nothing, just like Rios came here for nothing.

 

From the history of pitchers with shoulder injuries, we can speculate all we want about him building up value for a trade in 2014 or 2015 or whatever year, but it's better just to clear that money off the books.

 

Best case scenario, he's a #3 guy, or strong 2 on a weak team. But there's just as much of a chance he remains a 4 and overpaid for that level of production that we could get from Quintana or Santiago for 1/10th the cost.

 

Odds are whoever claims a guy like Crain, really could use him. It is hard to find that good of a set up guy around baseball these days, not to mention the need to lock down innings 6-8.

Odds are whoever claims a guy like Crain, really could use him. It is hard to find that good of a set up guy around baseball these days, not to mention the need to lock down innings 6-8.

Well, teams on the outside of the race looking in could readily just claim him as a blocking maneuver too.

Well, teams on the outside of the race looking in could readily just claim him as a blocking maneuver too.

 

A truly bad team has no reason to pull a block. Any team on the edge could use a Jesse Crain, as could any team in contention. Relievers aren't like 3B's. You really can't have a deep enough pen, especially in the stretch run where starters get pulled quicker, and the pen works harder and longer.

A truly bad team has no reason to pull a block. Any team on the edge could use a Jesse Crain, as could any team in contention. Relievers aren't like 3B's. You really can't have a deep enough pen, especially in the stretch run where starters get pulled quicker, and the pen works harder and longer.

 

 

Except the obvious drawback of being limited to negotiating with only one team that's perhaps on the periphery of contention...that said, the claim does create a lot of pressure on both sides to consummate a deal if the posting team really does want to move him.

Except the obvious drawback of being limited to negotiating with only one team that's perhaps on the periphery of contention...that said, the claim does create a lot of pressure on both sides to consummate a deal if the posting team really does want to move him.

 

It also creates pressure on the claiming team not to lose a guy like Crain who could really help them.

Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 13m

 

Crain, Konerko are 9th, 10th #WhiteSox to hit DL in '13. Also: Peavy, J. Danks, Floyd, Beckham, A. Sanchez, Septimo, Viciedo, Wise.

The White Sox luck in 2013 is just plain bad.

Heard Crain on the pre-game show.

 

Seemed to attribute it simply to throwing so many pitches/workload/everyday wear-and-tear and also going at 100% maximum effort when he's out there.

 

Almost exactly a year to the day last year he had to get an MRI.

 

Said he didn't feel great warming up before the game and then when he started throwing curveballs in the pen it got progressively worse.

 

Hoping to come back in two weeks.

Edited July 3, 201312 yr by caulfield12

Do NOT panic folks we are on a winning streak and turning this ship around

So evidently anyone with a trade value is going to get hurt so they can't be traded. Then they all come back after the trade deadline and get on just hot enough of a streak to win 80 or so games this year.

So evidently anyone with a trade value is going to get hurt so they can't be traded. Then they all come back after the trade deadline and get on just hot enough of a streak to win 80 or so games this year.

 

That's what is known as baseball hell. However, good luck getting to 80 wins with this schedule in the 2nd half of the season.

Edited July 4, 201312 yr by fathom

Saw this from last night's postgame notes

 

1B/DH Paul Konerko made his first start since missing the previous six games with lower back tightness. Konerko went 0-for-0 in Chicago's 5-2 victory over Baltimore, but he said he's close to working past the back issue. "I think it's at a point where it's that last little bit (of the recovery process)," Konerko said. "I'm feeling good being out there. I was having good at-bats before I went down. I liked the way I was swinging the bat. I didn't love it, but I liked it. So, I'm just going to try to pick it up from there and keep it going."

 

woops

WHY is Phegley still not up?

 

He could catch while Dunn plays 1b and Flowers/Keppinger DH

Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 34s

 

Jesse Crain said he played catch at 40-50 feet today. Went as he expected. Was first time he'd thrown in a week. #WhiteSox

Has there been any detailed comment or update on PK's injury? It seems to me that this is a sham.

Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 34s

 

Jesse Crain said he played catch at 40-50 feet today. Went as he expected. Was first time he'd thrown in a week. #WhiteSox

 

I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's available in the next 3 weeks.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5835542.story

I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's available in the next 3 weeks.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5835542.story

If he's already throwing from 45 feet, I'd say he's on pace for about 10 days from now.

If he's already throwing from 45 feet, I'd say he's on pace for about 10 days from now.

 

It just gets scary when they start mentioning possibly visiting the doctor that previously performed the surgery.

It's getting harder to imagine him being healthy enough to pitch well and raise his stock before the deadline.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,3112864.story

Konerko starting a rehab assignment on Thursday.

 

 

It's getting harder to imagine him being healthy enough to pitch well and raise his stock before the deadline.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,3112864.story

I'm not overly optimistic about Crain coming back before the trade dealine either especially when he's got free agency coming. He'll want to show he's healthy but only when he is throwing with no discomfort and that looks like it will be after the trade dealine passes more and more every day.