southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 10:53 AM) Would you guys give Beckham a 3 year deal at $10 million right now? Would he even take it? Or are you guys saying that we should wait and sign him to like a 5-6 year below market at season's end if he keeps this up? Either way, he'd still be a tradeable asset whenever. Hitting like he is now could make him a $10 million annual player, especially when you add in the D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 So...is this another Jeff Manto success story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (Special K @ Jul 11, 2013 -> 02:30 PM) A month of good baseball is not worth an extension. If he is still hitting like this next year, then offer an extension. If he does not take it, that is a risk I take. because if you wait until Beckham puts these numbers up next year, you end up having to pay him even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 10:55 AM) So...is this another Jeff Manto success story? SARCASM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 04:53 PM) Would you guys give Beckham a 3 year deal at $10 million right now? Would he even take it? Or are you guys saying that we should wait and sign him to like a 5-6 year below market at season's end if he keeps this up? Either way, he'd still be a tradeable asset whenever. Sure. Isn't Kepp making more than 3 mill a season? At the worst, Beckham is way better than Kepp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 09:54 PM) Sure. Isn't Kepp making more than 3 mill a season? At the worst, Beckham is way better than Kepp. $3.5 million in 2013, $4.0 million in 2014 and $4.5 million in 2015, according to the team. Similar to the infamous Teahen deal/extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 It's a little early to judge. His numbers just look weird at this point. He's not going to hit .342 (obviously). He's not going to only walk 3% of the time (god I hope not). And the power will come back eventually. Gordon's had notoriously low BABIPs in his career and some of that had to do with luck and some of it had to do with his batted ball rates. Perhaps this new approach has changed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 09:50 PM) It's a little early to judge. His numbers just look weird at this point. He's not going to hit .342 (obviously). He's not going to only walk 3% of the time (god I hope not). And the power will come back eventually. Gordon's had notoriously low BABIPs in his career and some of that had to do with luck and some of it had to do with his batted ball rates. Perhaps this new approach has changed that. Gordon's poor BABIP had to deal with the fact that he rarely hit the ball hard. Nothing more then that. It wasn't bad luck. Thankfully for about the first time since he came up, he's looking relatively natural at the plate (and hitting the ball hard consistently). And if he does figure things out...that would be Rios, Dunn, and Becks who would have rebounded and been solid players under Manto. Hell, AJ had a career year with Manto too a year ago. I can't blame him for the s***ty offense since we have a relatively untalented lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 11:00 AM) Hitting like he is now could make him a $10 million annual player, especially when you add in the D. No. Beckham's BABIP is .389. Paying him $10 million a year due to good production over 150 PA is absurd. And yes, it's a stretch to assume he'll keep up this production for his next 300 PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I hope his BA falls, his BB% rises, and his power rises. He should still be an .850 OPS player in that case. Hard not to be encouraged, but he's far from a sure thing. On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time that at a 25-year-old just happens to "find it." If so, we're lucky he didn't "find it" on someone else's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 He looks a lot better at the plate than he has in a while. Im confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 QUOTE (staxx @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 07:09 PM) He looks a lot better at the plate than he has in a while. Im confident. He has a beautiful finish to his swing when he's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'm not giving him an extension yet. Much more bad still than there has been good in his career. Need more than 200 ab's to offer him a sizeable extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 So...how bad is the injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 14, 2013 -> 05:46 AM) So...how bad is the injury? I would be stunned if he's not ok for the first game after the ASB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 10:52 PM) SARCASM? I can't speak for Jake, but I don't think he was sarcastic. Stone gave credit to Manto for Beckham the other day (Rios as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 01:10 PM) I hope his BA falls, his BB% rises, and his power rises. He should still be an .850 OPS player in that case. Hard not to be encouraged, but he's far from a sure thing. On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time that at a 25-year-old just happens to "find it." If so, we're lucky he didn't "find it" on someone else's team. We have seen the "power" Beckham. I'll keep this one every day. His stroke is much closer to his college one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 11:46 PM) So...how bad is the injury? Calling it a Quad bruise. Doesn't sound too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2013 -> 01:42 PM) We have seen the "power" Beckham. I'll keep this one every day. His stroke is much closer to his college one. I feel his power will come back, but on line drives, once his wrist is fully healed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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