Man that's pretty bad. Jacobs isn't the greatest but still a meaningful prospect. I assumed it was an A ball pile of crap. A bad deal even worse, slightly.

 

Can you change your name to Santiago>Eaton?

What is Jacobs 40-man status? Is he Rule V eligible? I can't remember.

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 1m

 

Soon-to-be #Diamondbacks OF Brandon Jacobs: Auburn RB recruit, plus RH power potential but inconsistent contact, solid run, LF arm.

 

So Whitesox give up Santiago and Jacobs to get Eaton?

Jacobs doesnt sound right, PTBL or cash and its jacobs?

 

Wow, I wouldnt have guessed him

Edited December 10, 201312 yr by RockRaines

What is Jacobs 40-man status? Is he Rule V eligible? I can't remember.

 

Not on 40, can be picked in Rule 5

Ultimately, I hope this is part of a defined direction for the White Sox. The Paulie deal aside, we're gravitating towards younger, cost-controlled (for a while) players. There's no reason that a guy like Keppinger or Alexei, for example, needs to be a part of that.

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 1m

 

Soon-to-be #Diamondbacks OF Brandon Jacobs: Auburn RB recruit, plus RH power potential but inconsistent contact, solid run, LF arm.

 

So Whitesox give up Santiago and Jacobs to get Eaton?

 

Well, I was hoping it'd be less than Jacobs, but do what you gotta do.

Jacobs doesnt sound right, PTBL or cash and its jacobs?

I'm not a big fan of Jacobs. He does have tools though so a switch could flip.

Ultimately, I hope this is part of a defined direction for the White Sox. The Paulie deal aside, we're gravitating towards younger, cost-controlled (for a while) players. There's no reason that a guy like Keppinger or Alexei, for example, needs to be a part of that.

 

And players that hopefully have good OBPs.

We are giving up Jacobs also? I still think we could have gotten more for Santiago but what do I know.

I'm not a big fan of Jacobs. He does have tools though so a switch could flip.

 

 

Like Dick Allen said much earlier in this thread, part of this has to be the evaluation of Santiago by our own guys. It's never quite seemed like we were all that enamored with him. That being said, I have no clue why we needed to include Jacobs, if true. Maybe Arizona thinks they can fix him but didn't want to get him in Rule V.

Man that's pretty bad. Jacobs isn't the greatest but still a meaningful prospect. I assumed it was an A ball pile of crap. A bad deal even worse, slightly.

 

There is also talk that he's a young Lenny Dykstra, yet you seem to be avoiding those. The fact is we don't know what we have in him yet. Opinions are mixed all across the board.

 

I'm happy they've made this sort of move to at least attempt to improve the team.

 

Also, Brandon Jacobs hit .237/.291/.327/.618 in 176 plate appearances with the Barons, striking out 50 times in 176 PAs. For his minor league career, he's at .262/.335/.434/.769 with a 25.4% K-rate. Calling him a meaningful prospect is like calling Ryan Meaux a meaningful prospect.

Really, the Sox took half a season to look at Brandon Jacobs and saw nothing they liked. They moved him.

So Hahn has turned...

 

Peavy, Rios and Thornton into...

 

Avisail, Leury, JDA, and Eaton.

 

I'm cool with that.

There is also talk that he's a young Lenny Dykstra, yet you seem to be avoiding those. The fact is we don't know what we have in him yet. Opinions are mixed all across the board.

 

I'm happy they've made this sort of move to at least attempt to improve the team.

 

Also, Brandon Jacobs hit .237/.291/.327/.618 in 176 plate appearances with the Barons, striking out 50 times in 176 PAs. For his minor league career, he's at .262/.335/.434/.769 with a 25.4% K-rate. Calling him a meaningful prospect is like calling Ryan Meaux a meaningful prospect.

He's a solid C- with some upside.

We have a lot of guys that are similar to Jacobs, but he is the worst of them defensively. We have enough contact-challenged prospect OF that I don't care too much to see him go, especially as our OF is pretty crowded with cost and team-controlled players now

Edited December 10, 201312 yr by Jake

There is also talk that he's a young Lenny Dykstra, yet you seem to be avoiding those. The fact is we don't know what we have in him yet. Opinions are mixed all across the board.

 

I'm happy they've made this sort of move to at least attempt to improve the team.

 

Also, Brandon Jacobs hit .237/.291/.327/.618 in 176 plate appearances with the Barons, striking out 50 times in 176 PAs. For his minor league career, he's at .262/.335/.434/.769 with a 25.4% K-rate. Calling him a meaningful prospect is like calling Ryan Meaux a meaningful prospect.

 

I'm not quite sure that people are begrudging the acquisition of Eaton. Moreso that it would seem that a young starter that has results like Hector has might seem like he'd be worth more on his own.

There is also talk that he's a young Lenny Dykstra, yet you seem to be avoiding those. The fact is we don't know what we have in him yet. Opinions are mixed all across the board.

 

I'm happy they've made this sort of move to at least attempt to improve the team.

 

Also, Brandon Jacobs hit .237/.291/.327/.618 in 176 plate appearances with the Barons, striking out 50 times in 176 PAs. For his minor league career, he's at .262/.335/.434/.769 with a 25.4% K-rate. Calling him a meaningful prospect is like calling Ryan Meaux a meaningful prospect.

Totally agree. Not at all enamored with Jacobs, as I assume the Sox weren't either.

So Hahn has turned...

 

Peavy, Rios and Thornton into...

 

Avisail, Leury, JDA, and Eaton.

 

I'm cool with that.

Winner winner chicken dinner - now get the ball rolling on more new badass chisox

So Hahn has turned...

 

Peavy, Rios and Thornton into..

Avisail, Leury, JDA, and Eaton.

 

I'm cool with that.

It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. I'm actually surprised this board is cool with that. Usually this board loves to preach the failure rate of prospects yet we traded 4 established MLBers (only one who needed to go) for 3 prospects, 2 of them very key to our future. I'd figure everyone here would prefer decent packages. If one of Garcia or Eaton fails we will be in big big trouble and odds are that probably happens unfortunately.

Edited December 10, 201312 yr by Buehrle>Wood

It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. I'm actually surprised this board is cool with that. Usually this board loves to preach the failure rate of prospects yet we traded 4 established MLBers (only one who needed to go) for 3 prospects, 2 of them very key to are future. I'd figure everyone here would prefer decent packages. If one Garcia or Eaton fails we will be in big big trouble and odds are that probably happens unfortunately.

 

Well said, it's far too early to judge these trades, but I'm sure if would have asked anyone on this board a year ago, they would have hoped for a heck of a lot more in return. Thankfully they were able to get Abreu with some of the money saved.

It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. I'm actually surprised this board is cool with that. Usually this board loves to preach the failure rate of prospects yet we traded 4 established MLBers (only one who needed to go) for 3 prospects, 2 of them very key to our future. I'd figure everyone here would prefer decent packages. If one of Garcia or Eaton fails we will be in big big trouble and odds are that probably happens unfortunately.

And we'd succeed with Peavy, Rios, Thornton and Hector?

 

It's a low risk high reward thing we're doing here.

Sox have loved Eaton for a long while. IMO, he's gonna be a great fit.

It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton.

 

It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton plus a ton of cash. We used the ton of cash and signed Abreu.

It's more like Jake Peavy, Alex Rios, Matt Thorton and Hector Santiago for Leury Garcia, Avisail Garcia, and Adam Eaton. I'm actually surprised this board is cool with that. Usually this board loves to preach the failure rate of prospects yet we traded 4 established MLBers (only one who needed to go) for 3 prospects, 2 of them very key to our future. I'd figure everyone here would prefer decent packages. If one of Garcia or Eaton fails we will be in big big trouble and odds are that probably happens unfortunately.

Why is it more like that? WE saved a ton of money allowing us to sign the best foreign bat on the market. We've started to try and build a young core that will help contend for years to come. I am guessing not many people are against that whatsoever.