November 4, 201411 yr http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/sellin...ee-agency-pitch Thought it was interesting that Hayes got Lester to get some quotes in. Would you guys go after Lester? I know he's another lefty but he doesn't cost a draft pick and does a good playoff history. What he will get on the open market is scary what some numbers are being thrown out there, but if you were GM, would you bring in Lester? If yes, on what terms, if no, why not? Discuss. Sale Lester Quintana Danks Noesi Sale Lester Quintana Noesi Bassitt (if Danks traded) Edited November 4, 201411 yr by SoxPride18
November 4, 201411 yr He's 30, I just feel with the numbers/years teams are going to throw at him team who signs him are looking at eating a lot of the back end of a contract, the question that teams will have to evaluate and make an assumption about is how much of it. Also, with Rondon and his potential upside, that's another LHP in the fray.
November 4, 201411 yr No, and not just because he'd make us an all lefty-rotation (Sale/Lester/Quintana/Rodon/Danks), but mainly because he'll want a crazy amount of money which would stop us from going after other good FAs
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) He'll be a Cub. Keep drinking the cubs coolaid he wont be a cub lol
November 4, 201411 yr By my math, Jon Lester would cost the vast majority of our ability to spend this winter, so no.
November 4, 201411 yr I just can't get on board with a 6+yr/$100m+ contract to a 30+ pitcher at this point in MLB. I mean I think that literally ALL of them have turned out bad so far. You can argue maybe that Sabathia's current flaming disaster was worth the production up front, but still. So maybe one has worked, arguably.
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (peavy44 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) Keep drinking the cubs coolaid he wont be a cub lol Says the guy with the same name as a pitcher so focused on going to the Cubs with Lester that his mind was more on that than it was on GAME 6 OF THE ****ING WORLD SERIES
November 4, 201411 yr Lester's another guy like Quintana whose handedness you ignore because the splits are barely there. I wouldn't be scared off him because of the lefty thing. I would be scared off by the dollars he'll get.
November 4, 201411 yr 5 lefty starters ...Oh My., but if we did sign Lester, I think we could trade Quintana for a heck of a haul. just dreaming
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) He'll be a Cub. Yup. Only way it doesn't happen is if some mystery team goes crazy and offers him like $200 million plus
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 11:05 PM) Yup. Only way it doesn't happen is if some mystery team goes crazy and offers him like $200 million plus Wouldn't shock me if it's done quickly in the process, as they'll use him as a recruiter for other top free agents.
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 03:58 PM) Says the guy with the same name as a pitcher so focused on going to the Cubs with Lester that his mind was more on that than it was on GAME 6 OF THE ****ING WORLD SERIES Im not cubs fans so shut ur mouth.
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 04:06 PM) Wouldn't shock me if it's done quickly in the process, as they'll use him as a recruiter for other top free agents. I feel like recruiting doesn't matter much with top free agents in baseball. Maybe with older guys looking for short deals, but the top guys get such big offers , money talks.
November 4, 201411 yr Wouldn't hate to see the Sox "Sell out" on hitting to build a dominate staff. Doubt it happens though.
November 4, 201411 yr Bleacher Reports thinks Ervin Santana would be a good fit for the Sox .http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2253830-projecting-1-impact-signing-every-mlb-team-will-make-this-winter/page/7 But remember that article just says if every team signed 1 free agent who seems the most likely candidate.
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (peavy44 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 04:16 PM) Im not cubs fans so shut ur mouth. He wasn't saying you were a Cubs fan, he was referencing Jake Peavy talking about teaming up with Jon Lester for the Cubs next year. Also, please take a moment to read through the board's posting guidelines. Telling someone to "shut ur mouth" would be an example of a personal attack, which are not allowed. Please refrain from doing so in the future. QUOTE (peavy44 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 04:42 PM) Just raise the price up for the cubs if u cant get him. It's not an XBox game. It's not in good nauture to submit artificial bids to increase the price of a player for a rival team unless you are willing to pay that price for that player. The Cubs may offer 6/$100 and the Sox come in with 6/$110 with a vesting option for the 7th thinking that the Cubs will come back over the top and ultimately the Cubs decide he's not worth that much. Now you're stuck with a monster contract in an area of no need. If the Cubs want to sign him, let them sign him.
November 4, 201411 yr Boston has plenty of money to offer and has history with Lester, I'm guessing he ends up back in Boston. I understand its fun to discuss and all, just not a realistic possibility for the White Sox.
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 04:49 PM) Bleacher Reports thinks Ervin Santana would be a good fit for the Sox .http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2253830-projecting-1-impact-signing-every-mlb-team-will-make-this-winter/page/7 But remember that article just says if every team signed 1 free agent who seems the most likely candidate. Yuck. Perfect candidate for regression coming back to the AL in an increasily-difficult division. We'd spend $10-15 million to get, what, 2 more wins (arguably) when we already saw the fallacy of this with Ubaldo Jimenez...Santana's not going to move the meter enough to put us over the top, and he might not even pitch any better than Noesi/Bassitt (I do feel comfortable stating that he would outperform Carroll, though). You're going to get a LOT more bang for you buck when you make bigger upgrades in the LF/DH slots. That's when you look very closely at upgrading the final starting spot, assuming Rodon's looking like a killer. In the final opinion, since we wouldn't be likely to sign Santana for more than one year, it's kind of pointless. We can find more inexpensive "filler" in another throwaway season like the Cubs have consistently been able to find and leverage for trade. Edited November 4, 201411 yr by caulfield12
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 05:06 PM) It's not an XBox game. It's not in good nauture to submit artificial bids to increase the price of a player for a rival team unless you are willing to pay that price for that player. The Cubs may offer 6/$100 and the Sox come in with 6/$110 with a vesting option for the 7th thinking that the Cubs will come back over the top and ultimately the Cubs decide he's not worth that much. Now you're stuck with a monster contract in an area of no need. If the Cubs want to sign him, let them sign him. Since when is starting pitching an area of no need?
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 05:19 PM) Since when is starting pitching an area of no need? Well, they surely don't need to spend $100 million on a 30 year old. That's more along the lines of what I meant.
November 4, 201411 yr Yeah, no thank you to Santana. Would much rather use that money on a hitter and give Bassitt a shot as a full time starter. Santana's numbers would not translate over to the AL and especially at US Cellular. Didn't we talk enough last winter about Santana? Good grief was that idea beaten to death! Anyway. Anyone think maybe the Rangers jump in on Lester?
November 4, 201411 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 05:06 PM) He wasn't saying you were a Cubs fan, he was referencing Jake Peavy talking about teaming up with Jon Lester for the Cubs next year. Also, please take a moment to read through the board's posting guidelines. Telling someone to "shut ur mouth" would be an example of a personal attack, which are not allowed. Please refrain from doing so in the future. It's not an XBox game. It's not in good nauture to submit artificial bids to increase the price of a player for a rival team unless you are willing to pay that price for that player. The Cubs may offer 6/$100 and the Sox come in with 6/$110 with a vesting option for the 7th thinking that the Cubs will come back over the top and ultimately the Cubs decide he's not worth that much. Now you're stuck with a monster contract in an area of no need. If the Cubs want to sign him, let them sign him. He attack me I didnt like it that much.
November 4, 201411 yr He wasn't saying you were a Cubs fan, he was referencing Jake Peavy talking about teaming up with Jon Lester for the Cubs next year. Also, please take a moment to read through the board's posting guidelines. Telling someone to "shut ur mouth" would be an example of a personal attack, which are not allowed. Please refrain from doing so in the future. It's not an XBox game. It's not in good nauture to submit artificial bids to increase the price of a player for a rival team unless you are willing to pay that price for that player. The Cubs may offer 6/$100 and the Sox come in with 6/$110 with a vesting option for the 7th thinking that the Cubs will come back over the top and ultimately the Cubs decide he's not worth that much. Now you're stuck with a monster contract in an area of no need. If the Cubs want to sign him, let them sign him. [/quote We in need of starting pitching yes we are.
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