Another poster said he would offer John Ryan Murphy, Brady Lail and Abiatal Avelino.

 

JR Murphy is just not a guy I care to acquire. He doesn't excite me.

Went on the Yankees board to see what they would offer for Alexei, one poster suggested JR Murphy and Shane Greene for Alexei. What do you guys think?

Its a much better idea than some of the Mets proposals ( Gee, Niese, Colon). Greene is very interesting and I would not mind seeing what improvements he might make with Coop's help. Greene has good stuff.

If the Sox could get Syndergaard and another prospect for Alexei, that'd be something I'd pull the trigger on.

 

Add Syndergaard to the group of Rodon, Montas, Danish, Adams and Beck and the Sox would have some nice young arms they could hopefully flip for young bats after some development, such as Santiago for Eaton.

 

 

If the Sox could get Syndergaard and another prospect for Alexei, that'd be something I'd pull the trigger on.

 

Add Syndergaard to the group of Rodon, Montas, Danish, Adams and Beck and the Sox would have some nice young arms they could hopefully flip for young bats after some development, such as Santiago for Eaton.

 

I would take just Syndergaard straight up for Alexei. He was the #11 ranked prospect in all of baseball according to BP last season. That's a ranking better than Rodon will likely get coming in to 2015, and I don't know how many of you would trade 6 years of Rodon for 2 years of Alexei, and then talk about adding ANOTHER prospect on top of Rodon, and I'm not sure a single poster here would take that.

 

Now the Mets do have more young pitchers than the Sox, so they could afford to lose Syndergaard and still have nice young arms, but I think to expect Syndergaard PLUS another guy is highly unlikely.

Edited November 13, 201411 yr by Chilihead90

Went on the Yankees board to see what they would offer for Alexei, one poster suggested JR Murphy and Shane Greene for Alexei. What do you guys think?

for me, not enuf

Sorry if this is dumb/been discussed already, but should we worry about trading alexei and viciedo and the effect it'd have on abreu? Just wondering because the whole Cuban thing and him mentioning when he won Roy how having both has really helped him, etc (with him having the opt out etc)

 

last yr, I was always arguing against it, this yr, after all that Jose achieve, a yr of getting

used to America etc..... I don't think it will affect him as much as last yr.

 

still that is a main reason to wait for a knock out price.

I would take just Syndergaard straight up for Alexei. He was the #11 ranked prospect in all of baseball according to BP last season. That's a ranking better than Rodon will likely get coming in to 2015, and I don't know how many of you would trade 6 years of Rodon for 2 years of Alexei, and then talk about adding ANOTHER prospect on top of Rodon, and I'm not sure a single poster here would take that.

 

Now the Mets do have more young pitchers than the Sox, so they could afford to lose Syndergaard

and still have nice young arms, but I think to expect Syndergaard PLUS another guy is highly unlikely.

 

when looking at the possible trade between sox and mets, I purposely avoided

Synergaard b/c he is the mets #1 prospect. a potential of a #1 at a very young

age.

 

I will still try to extract a 2 player like a Reynolds or Taylor.

 

just maybe.

Edited November 13, 201411 yr by LDF

I would take just Syndergaard straight up for Alexei. He was the #11 ranked prospect in all of baseball according to BP last season. That's a ranking better than Rodon will likely get coming in to 2015, and I don't know how many of you would trade 6 years of Rodon for 2 years of Alexei, and then talk about adding ANOTHER prospect on top of Rodon, and I'm not sure a single poster here would take that.

 

Now the Mets do have more young pitchers than the Sox, so they could afford to lose Syndergaard and still have nice young arms, but I think to expect Syndergaard PLUS another guy is highly unlikely.

 

I'd take him straight up to. Just wondering out loud.

Syndergaard for Alexei would be an absolute steal. I'd be willing to throw in another piece too if that's what it took.

 

Losing Alexei would suck, but adding a guy like Syndergaard would set up our rotation incredibly well for the next five years. It would also give us more financial flexibility to fix the offense/bullpen and make it easier to trade a guy like Montas or Danish in a package for an impact bat.

Syndergaard for Alexei would be an absolute steal. I'd be willing to throw in another piece too if that's what it took.

 

Losing Alexei would suck, but adding a guy like Syndergaard would set up our rotation incredibly well for the next five years. It would also give us more financial flexibility to fix the offense/bullpen and make it easier to trade a guy like Montas or Danish in a package for an impact bat.

I like the idea. The Sox could try throwing Sanchez into the discussions, since he has more idefensive infield versatility than Flores, and see what the Mets think. Maybe then the Sox stand a chance at one of Wheeler, Snydergaard, Montero.

 

I really doubt it but I wonder if there's any chance at all that the Mets would have interest in Viciedo or even Jordan Danks as throw ins.

For Syndergaard and a low level prospect or INTL $, I would send the Mets: Alexi and Chris Beck.

Syndergaard for Alexei would be an absolute steal. I'd be willing to throw in another piece too if that's what it took.

 

Losing Alexei would suck, but adding a guy like Syndergaard would set up our rotation incredibly well for the next five years. It would also give us more financial flexibility to fix the offense/bullpen and make it easier to trade a guy like Montas or Danish in a package for an impact bat.

 

esp at a cost control salary, providing options with the extra salary savings.

 

sweet deal if done.

I like the idea. The Sox could try throwing Sanchez into the discussions, since he has more idefensive infield versatility than Flores, and see what the Mets think. Maybe then the Sox stand a chance at one of Wheeler, Snydergaard, Montero.

 

I really doubt it but I wonder if there's any chance at all that the Mets would have interest in Viciedo or even Jordan Danks as throw ins.

 

lol, lets not get tooooo greedy.

 

I the sox threw in Sanchez, then I would most assuredly a Reynolds kind of

second player.

For Syndergaard and a low level prospect or INTL $, I would send the Mets: Alexi and Chris Beck.

 

not a bad idea.

not a bad idea.

 

Imagine this rotation:

 

Sale

Syndergaard

Quintana

Rodon

Noessi

 

They could even make someone like a Quintana available, or one of the guys at the minors.

Imagine this rotation:

 

Sale

Syndergaard

Quintana

Rodon

Noessi

 

They could even make someone like a Quintana available, or one of the guys at the minors.

 

I wouldn't count on Sydergaard in the majors just yet. last season he took a little step

back in his quest to make it to the majors.

 

something out his pitches and command. I don't quite remember. I think the article was in

MILB under Mets.

I wouldn't count on Sydergaard in the majors just yet. last season he took a little step

back in his quest to make it to the majors.

 

something out his pitches and command. I don't quite remember. I think the article was in

MILB under Mets.

 

I'm just talking about down the line. I think that he should start the season in the minors and be called up around the all star break, or be given 100IP in the majors.

 

 

I'm just talking about down the line. I think that he should start the season in the minors and be called up around the all star break, or be given 100IP in the majors.

 

most definitely. but I think the sox need that starting pitcher in the beginning

of the season.

Trading Alexei for Syndegaard straight up is crazy talk. Syndergaard has no track record and you are just as likely creating two holes instead of filling one. If if was deal structured similar to the Peavy deal last year where Syndegaard was the headliner accompanied by some low level guys that have a chance then it would make sense. But you dont trade an AS level SS for a guy that simply might flame out, you need to have more insurance than that or the deal isn't worth it. If you are talking Wheeler it would make a little more sense as he has shown that he can pitch in the majors, albeit very inconsistently.

I hate to burst your bubble guys but I doubt we get Snydergaard for ramirez. If ramirez was younger and under contract longer then that might happen. If they wanted to give up their no 1 prospect and 10th best in all of baseball then they would be getting starlin castro, elvis andrus or troy tulowitzki. It would be like if the Mets had ramirez and we gave up carlos rodon for him. I doubt you guys would be happy with that. We should get a top prospect if we are moving him. I would say montero, bullpen arm and lower level prospects would be more in line.

I hate to burst your bubble guys but I doubt we get Snydergaard for ramirez. If ramirez was younger and under contract longer then that might happen. If they wanted to give up their no 1 prospect and 10th best in all of baseball then they would be getting starlin castro, elvis andrus or troy tulowitzki. It would be like if the Mets had ramirez and we gave up carlos rodon for him. I doubt you guys would be happy with that. We should get a top prospect if we are moving him. I would say montero, bullpen arm and lower level prospects would be more in line.

 

I am cool with that, just not a one for one trade for any minor leaguer.

I hate to burst your bubble guys but I doubt we get Snydergaard for ramirez. If ramirez was younger and under contract longer then that might happen. If they wanted to give up their no 1 prospect and 10th best in all of baseball then they would be getting starlin castro, elvis andrus or troy tulowitzki. It would be like if the Mets had ramirez and we gave up carlos rodon for him. I doubt you guys would be happy with that. We should get a top prospect if we are moving him. I would say montero, bullpen arm and lower level prospects would be more in line.

 

Because for those guys they'd be paying even more than just Syndergaard

Niese is not a 3 (neither is Noesi). More like a 4.

Those are back end of the roster players.

Pass.

 

Niese is certainly more than a #4. Last 2 years he's ranked 57th in total WAR among SPs. His FIP ranked 37th. His xFIP was 40th. An arguement could be made he's moreso a low end #2 than a #4.

 

Perhaps you can use the NL to AL argument to lessen his performance but still.

 

 

I can see the logic behind the Mets perspective though. Niese and Gee have two years of control left just like Alexei and are younger/ cheaper than Alexei so in the eyes of the Mets, it makes sense . Problem for the Mets is that Alexei is quite valuable in the eyes of the Sox, and rightfully so.

 

Niese has team options in 2017 and 18, so unless he blows up, that's 4 years of control.

 

 

 

 

Niese is certainly more than a #4. Last 2 years he's ranked 57th in total WAR among SPs. His FIP ranked 37th. His xFIP was 40th. An arguement could be made he's moreso a low end #2 than a #4.

 

Perhaps you can use the NL to AL argument to lessen his performance but still.

 

 

 

 

Niese has team options in 2017 and 18, so unless he blows up, that's 4 years of control.

 

No, I'd agree that Niese is a 3-4. He's a nice starter and I wouldn't mind the Sox acquiring him in a separate deal, but you can't trade Ramirez straight up for him.

Top 5 blockbuster trade ideas

 

4. Alexei Ramirez to the Yankees, Shane Greene to the White Sox

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